i just use debian 11... and its straight forward enough.. xfce4..

i want a terminal i just click F1 and there is tilda..

guyake is too resource intensive..

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xfce is super clean.

I really enjoy it. I switched over when gnome became unusable around 2010. recently in the past few years i had a few issues to iron out with lightdm vs the others, and i think wayland kinda screwed things up but i think they learned and fixed it

We agree on Gnome for sure then. I shouldn't have to install a tweak tool to minimize a window.

🤣....

btw i run an irc server, you idle anywhere? this is so much flipping overhead just to have a simple conversation... and so inefficient.

Can't tonight, but if you DM me I'll join your channel tomorrow.

that sounds lovely will do.