Replying to Avatar Melvin Carvalho

Run the numbers. Paid relays and many other use cases can only work with economies of scale. Let's say 10K DAU and 1% are prepared to pay $10 a month, that means $10000 a month to be shared by all the relays and all the apps. That makes no sense, one good dev would get paid more than that. You can fiddle with the numbers but it largely remains the same.

The flaw is thinking that nostr is a large eco systerm with existing economies of scale, rather than a small eco system that is in an embrionic phase.

nostr is something that so many people want to happen, and with good reason. But it has recieved 100x more in donations than it has in revenue. So the key is to use those donations as wisely as possible to grow the baby until the economies of scale can kick in. Therefore a % of the donations (it doesnt have to be alot) needs to go to the relay network, rather than to be either hoarded, or spent all on building. The people taking donations should have ear marked 1% for the relay network, maybe a bit more. Opensats need to spend their war chest as wisely as possible. There is an issue that people take the relay network for granted, but every time we have had a surge the relays melt down. Then users go to bluesky or mastodon. Another thing nostr needs is a scaling architecture.

Apart from that someone could come along and make a game changing new app, but when nostr assets did that they were sadly run out of town. They are rebranding away from nostr now.

I think without a growth strategy, say from opensats or fiatjaf etc. it will probably go sideways for a while. Which is OK, but still has the issue that things are not self sustaining.

That's not to say nostr cant grow. But 10x growth would require a change in strategy. I'd rather say 10% a year would be decent growth otherwise, but id more prefer to keep the 30k WAU than to lose them.

tl;dr people that want growth need a strategy for growth, which is hard work, and not there right now. However, but identifying the problem, it can then be solved.

Great points! I think we'll see some of those new apps / use cases pretty soon. Your idea to earmark a percentage of donations for relay operators is a good one. I'd love to see experimentation there. I also hope (and expect) we'll see several well funded companies enter that can eat those costs for as long as necessary until the economies of scale kick in.

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New companies coming in and using nostr is indeed a great growth vector, you are right.

I also think that even slow growth is OK.

By 2027 it is predicted that AGI will come in and you will have robots with autonomous intelligence. Nostr will a great environment for them to interact, and make rapid progress, rather than the incremental we are seeing now.

So if nostr survives a few years, it can take advantage of cutting-edge new collaborative systems of humans and machines working together.

Plenty to be optimistic about, but important to remember that short term growth requires infrastructure. I would much rather think about a path to 100k WAU, than 1M. Because, unlike bluesky and mastodon, nostr does not have the capacity for 1M users. It may be easier to think of growing it in stages of capacity and users together.