I still connect public relays and just do client-side friend filtering. Wot relays aren’t the way.
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If I used wot relays I wouldn’t have seen your message. Really bad solution that makes nostr into a bubble
I agree. Unfortunately, a lot of influential Nostr folks have locked themselves exclusively behind WoT relays. While I understand that relays operators need to do something to protect their relays, I think WoT works best on the client side. IMO, clients should allow users to quickly switch between displaying comments from direct connections, "connections of connections", or all of Nostr. It’s a much better experience than having users guessing if someone is even receiving their messages.
What client are you using? I think a lot of clients can do this, or maybe only damus can?
I'm using Amethyst and Nostrudel. Unfortunately I don't owon an iOS device otherwise I would certainly try Damus.
To be fair I can switch between Global and Following "top-level views" but the "following" view still displays everyone’s comments on both clients. My best option as a user is to stop reading from certain public relays under attack until the spam settles down. If I could select an option to display only comments from "followers of followers" or maybe 3rd-degree connections, most of the spam would be gone. Then, I could quickly disable it to welcome new users, etc. This would definitely be a much better user experience.
here's our approach:
https://cdn.jb55.com/s/fof-switch.mp4
its been simple enough for my use cases (targeted spam against my account)
Now I get why you never see my replies
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Ok I thought you just never saw it now I get you just ignored it 😒
Anyways I've said you should put some restrictions on damus relay like this because clients outside damus are having an horrible experience.
Will, this is awesome. I wish more clients had this feature.
What kind of spam you still getting?
Sorry for the delay, I wasn’t notified of your reply for some reason. When I enable relays under attack, it’s a mix of bot accounts impersonating others and replying with copies of random notes, plus occasional LLM-generated content. Unfortunately, there isn’t much I can do about it with hidden word filters. My strategy with Amethyst has been to temporarily stop downloading notes from affected general relays and re-enable them later. As Will said, attacks seem to come and go, often jumping between different relays.
Yep the impersonator bots are the worst the replyguy is easy just add GM's on the mute word list and he will be gone.
Not every message is vital though. You could apply different levels of squelch to different relays.
How to fix it for the majority of users is what I believe most developers will consider. 🤞
Though I do see the benefit of WOT relays for workgroups. My concern is how quickly some places can become gossip or echo chambers. Not that I’ve seen it here but it’s happened elsewhere so that’s why I bring it up. But I haven’t spent much time in WOT relays so far.