The debate that Veganism is good because it means less suffering for animals is a lie, far more animals including rodents, small mammals, reptiles and insects die in modern crop farming, however one cows death can mean food for many people and could feed a man almost a year.
For any animal to eat it unfortunately means the suffering and demise of other animals no matter how you go about it.
You expect for people to be rational? You should lower your expectations by a very large margin
True 😂 🐶
Totally agree, although the thing that is always left out is that there are humane ways to end the animals life. Quick and instant with the least amount of suffering.
Yes there definitely is, and there’s ethical ways to grow and harvest plants to, but it’s not how the majority of food is produced.
Veganism is a lifestyle devoted to minimalising the suffering and exploitation of animals.
It's not an argument that's just what veganism means.
Calling that an argument makes you seem retarded.
You don't have to be a vegan to understand what veganism is, you don't have to agree with it.
But arguing that its not what it actually is, that's retarded
I’m not saying that’s not the intent, I’m saying it’s usually not realistic that you are saving more lives eating that way, and I once was a vegan too years ago so I do understand its meaning.
Every argument against veganism seems to rely on being a moron.
I'm not a vegan, I raise cattle.
But I can understand what veganism is and understand there is no good argument against it.
Simple
Actually the only "anti vegan" argument that isn't just pure retardation is that wool and leather are more environmentally friendly than synthetic oil based clothing.
And plastic pollution hurts animals.
Every other anti vegan argument is just retardation based on a misunderstanding of what vegan means
There’s also much evidence that human bodies are more adapted to consuming flesh than plants and grains especially. I’m not saying that it can’t be an ethical lifestyle or calling them retards, I’m saying reality shows that more living things aren’t saved by the majority of vegans. If you grow everything ethically yourself that would be different.
Veganism is actually not part of the proper human diet.
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I'm making beef right now. 🤗 save the animals, hehe! 😇
I never fell for veganism. It always seems off to me. I grew up in Sweden where people don't need to take supplements, but every person who was a vegan did in order to not be malnourished.
The most common argument I heard was that it was "environmentally friendly", but in order to get enough nutrients in what they did eat, they needed to import it from the other side of the world!! Or make some fake laboratory versions...
Yeah, no thanks, I grew up on whole milk, butter, and real meat. I've never had any issues. I think I'll stick to that. 😊 (I didn't fall for the "no fat" is good lies either)
The same people who claim to be against harming animals are also leading to animals being killed through pesticides in the plants used in their vegan diets.
Exactly 💯
veganism is sold as compassionate but it's just a stealth marketing campaign for biotech industrial farming
Half of all crop farming goes to feed animals anyway, so just as many small animals will be killed harvesting crops for the cow as harvesting for humans. And the fact that the harvested food will be able to feed several times more people than the flesh of the cow because of how inefficient the cow is at turning grain/grass/feed into meat.
The goal of Veganism is to mitigate suffering as much as possible, and there aren't many other decisions that can reduce one's impact by 75% so easily. Total elimination of harm in food production is very difficult.
What do the animals eat? 🤦
There’s a difference between animals eating plants and humans manufacturing them, if an animal eats wheat for example, they aren’t going to kill a rodent, humans going over it with machines kills lots of animals
