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right, but what is the point of viewing a relay as a feed? It would only make sense if it’s a curated feed of people. An algo.

fiatjaf 3mo ago

a curated set of notes, like wss://relays.land/spatianostra;

an algorithm that fetches data from other relays and sorts them somehow, like wss://algo.utxo.one;

a relay where people intentionally publish exclusive notes to, like wss://imp.relays.land or wss://topic.relays.land/praise;

a semi-closed community, like wss://pyramid.fiatjaf.com;

a personal utility service, like wss://bookmarks.relays.land or wss://personal.relays.land;

a set of people self-selected according to some filtering criteria, like wss://nostr.wine or wss://nostr.land;

a semi-open public relay with intentional directed posts but strict moderation, like wss://relays.land/bitcoindev;

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🐢 3mo ago

Don’t bother, been asking Will for topical relay explorer for over a year, he doesn’t it.

there’s a round about way of doing it in global by turning off all relays except for the one you want to see, but very bad UX

jb55 3mo ago

I very much get it, thanks. which is why our meetings this morning was about the best way to add it that isn't confusing.

jb55 3mo ago

I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying. I am not saying its a bad idea, i'm trying to reverse engineer what users actually want vs what relay explorer/selection is affording as a feature.

fiatjaf 3mo ago

I didn't think you were saying it was a bad idea, you were one of the first people to talk concretely about custom relay feeds if I remember correctly.

I was just using the opportunity to make a list.

fiatjaf 3mo ago

There are probably a ton of other use cases, like internal relays, temporary relays for conferences and closed events, more utility use cases like I don't know you publish something there and the relay prints your message and mails it to you (silly example, this doesn't even make sense as a feed).

I'm trying to have more crazy ideas, but I bet other people will have them better once the possibility is unlocked in their minds. But also only in the scope of the relay classes listed above we already have enough room to fulfill many more interesting use cases.

Just communities and curation are already enough to justify having relay-feed-capable clients. The curation case is infinitely useful. Almost every one of the "whatever-on-Nostr" use cases (music on Nostr, business listings on Nostr, geocaching on Nostr, uber on Nostr, wikipedia on Nostr, livestreaming on Nostr etc) would benefit drastically from having curated relays, and it could become a profitable thing eventually, as I probably wrote on nostr:naddr1qqyrze35vscrzvfcqyghwumn8ghj7enfv96x5ctx9e3k7mgzyqalp33lewf5vdq847t6te0wvnags0gs0mu72kz8938tn24wlfze6qcyqqq823c0z85e2 (but I didn't reread). There is also the case for "publications"/magazines which I've seen many people talking about and to me that is a textbook example of a curated relay.

Many of the DVM use cases could also be reframed as relays with special functionality and they would work much better and be simpler.