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i'm not really that amazed because PAN has been a part of bluetooth for more than a decade, you can make tiny little lans with bluetooth on multiple devices attached to the same host, and if it has internet connection, you can route to the internet. many printers have this capability for connection as well, using LPR or whatever the HP and microsoft network printing protocols are.

i honestly don't get what the big deal is. it seems quite irrelevant to a situation where you are literally in whispering distance of the range of the radio.

Silberengel 5mo ago

I don't actually know, what the use case is.

We were working on the same topic for #GRW because we thought it might come in handy to have a little WLAN for a development meetup. Like, at a coworking space for a software project, where you're all sitting around a table or chilling together on the couch.

Or to be able to sync between your own devices, without having to go through the WLAN or the Internet.

But I don't know, how much use it would get. WLAN is everywhere, nowadays, and of you're that close to people, you can talk.

Lots of projects were probably building something similar, but I like that Samiz is not inside of the client, but more like a cross-client server.

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Silberengel 5mo ago

I assume people are excited about bitchat because it somehow comes from Jack.🤷🏻‍♀️ (I think it actually comes from Calle.)

Silberengel 5mo ago

Samiz has been around for 4 months.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 5mo ago

jack, a leader, apparently, of fanbois, but not even really quite an adept in any technical subject of what he speaks of, ie, bitcoin and nostr protocol and economics

they call them leaders but they are always followers and never scholars

Silberengel 5mo ago

I don't really get it, but I never followed him (or Elon or Trump or...) on Twitter, either.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 5mo ago

i've always had an instinct to distrust people that are popular, because people seem to be generally gullible and credulous, in fact i tend to be conservative in this same way about technology. i refused to use go modules for a year after they came out, then i caved and it was good, but still was buggy. i refused to use LLMs because all i ever saw from people using it was garbage, but then i caved, tried a few, and found that my preferred IDE had one that seemed like it was actually better than any others i'd heard of.

people who set trends tend to promote things that are still barely late alpha, so my instinct about not trusting them continues to be validated over and over again. i mean, i took 3 years to catch on to bitcoin. i was early at some things, like Tor.

Silberengel 5mo ago

Yeah, same. I sort of stand back and watch, for a bit, and too much hype makes me wary.

I was going to try BitChat, out of curiosity, but the mass hysteria it elicited was completely inexplicable and totally grossed me out, so I was like,

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 5mo ago

yeah, it sorta seems to me like the only logical use case for it is sensors, IoT type stuff but using nostr relays. if the device running the relay also has some kind of wifi mesh capability it starts to become interesting because a wifi mesh can span acres with a few nodes, and if the relays on the nodes are replicating it's a resilient connection, if each node also runs an AP that devices can hop to the nearest good connection. it then starts to become something like a nostr-web. assuming you add protocols for stuff like loading app modules to load into a web app client, the possibilities are endless for turning nostr into the next HTTP

Silberengel 5mo ago

Yeah, that's what they were talking about, in between the hype meltdowns from the worshippers of Purple Jesus. 😂

That's why it makes more sense to me as a utility or service, than as a chat app.

Niel Liesmons 5mo ago

💯

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 5mo ago

you had me at Purple Jesus