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One belongs in fruit, is more slowly absorbed in its natural form (as part of fruit), the other is a product of industrial manipulation, and in liquid form (trivial to overconsume plus rapidly absorbed).
The dose makes the poison, and context matters.
maybe it's not the fructose causing the obesity but fructose removed from myriad other compounds the interactions of which we donât yet fully understand
I agree with this because I feel very different eating a fruit compared to a soda. I donât really understand why carnivores hate fruit. Your brain and muscles need glucose.
Simple explanations are always enticing to people. It used to be: âsaturated fat is badâ or âcholesterol is bad,â and people poisoned themselves for decades eating low-fat processed carbs.
Now the counter-narrative is simple: âcarbs are badâ.
For me, I find it hard to believe that something that looks good, smells good, tastes good, grows on a tree and thatâs been around for untold millennia, that bears and other omnivorous animals devour at every opportunity would turn out to be poisonous to me.
Coca-cola, box of Oreos, sure. But seems youâd have to be âeducatedâ to worry about fruit, no one would be worried about it naturally.
I agree with this completely. Especially when you look at athletes at the highest levels. They need simple carbs to prevent their bodies from consuming their muscles for energy. Conversion of fat to energy is not efficient in a fight or flight state. We arenât carnivores, we never were.
Think you can get more efficient the more accustomed you are to ketosis, and I think *some* people have probably benefitted a lot from carnivore, but the obesity epidemic is recent, and 100 years ago they had access to plenty of fruit.
Think diet is really complex, and youâre gonna steer yourself off a cliff if you try to use âstudies showâ and âscience saysâ to decide what to eat. First principles IMO are much better heuristics when youâre dealing with complex systems.
Youâre going to have to spell this one out for me man, cause Iâm just not seeing it.
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Yep, a Snickers bar or some wholesome homemade bread, it's all sugar in the end. This doctor saved my life. Listen to him. I'm down 80ish pounds since starting carnivore. Never felt better and haven't looked better in almost 50 years . I'm almost 59 now. Thank you nostr:nprofile1qqstzt0wugc7sklvr8e7fcl7ukyn63ym3ns4nmf2mnk0vqnz4l9x65qpp4mhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mqpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ez6un9d3shjtnhd3m8xtnnwpskxegamescj