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The market should be free to make that decision. The state should not be the arbiter of the outcome. I think you would agree with that. No one's making people buy.

... 1y ago

Sure, i agree on that, but we would also need to remove subsidy to have a free market work. Till then people will have intensive to buy whatever the subsidy is for.. Education is lacking or not reaching the masses. This is obvious to me when I see my " high educated" friends still skipping the organic food and going for the bargains.

So what to do when your neighbors uses it all around their house or farm and are not willing to change when you point out the dangers or how to use it better?

Before we reach a true free market without influence of all the power of Monsanto/Bayer, what to do when someone next door can poison your food and water?

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OceanSlim 1y ago

I don't think there will ever truly be a free market like you describe. Best we can do is talk to our neighbors and engage in conversation like we are now to come to responsible conclusions. To be clear, glyso should absolutely not be used anywhere in agriculture.

... 1y ago

So why would you use it at all? Please explain to me.

I for instance might have trouble getting veggies with all them snails, to grow in my little yard, but I do have some herbs,, so would be quiet pissed if you start cleaning between your tiles with that stuff. I have a neighbor some doors aways who like cleaning his motorbike with a high pressure whose and chemical soaps.. I accept, feel little space for now, seeing he cleared out all the green to makes space for cement, I rather spare my energy.

You’re right that a conversation would be the way, but one can lack the capability to explain things properly even if they read up on the matter. I'm happy you called out my clown approach, yet I feel also a certain energy that can be drained in conversations like these where one sees it (completely) different than the other.. I get that we are probably on one line with not using it with food.. But for instance, take btc.. Explaining to one that does not get it a waste if there is no openness..

So in my own experience, and one I may hope to learn,, to not get too sarcastic.. or clowny. Better keep quiet and do it a lease how wish to see it.

Anyway,, This is me spending energy on your post in a more mature may.

I would like to now why you’d use it? Bees for instance go out drinking the morning dew off whatever plants, etc attracts moist, so if that’s got some poison on it.. they die. Why risk it if you’d care to not harm them?

... 1y ago

*quite pissed

OceanSlim 1y ago

Why wouldn't you wear a mask just so you don't risk getting everybody around you sick? Because everybody makes a risk assessment when they leave the comfort of their own home. It's not up to other individuals to ensure your safety.

... 1y ago

mmm. okay.. Lets talk guns then.. What if i was your next door neighbor and just made a shooting range in my yard hanging the target on our border fence?

OceanSlim 1y ago

Well that would be illegal but let's assume for the sake of the argument it's not. My options would either be to A. assault him back B. put some sort of barrier on the backside of my fence like steel to keep myself safe or C. move away. If a conversation with him does not fix it the burden is on myself If I were not to involve the state.

... 1y ago

So why not make spraying poison that may possibly harm someone else illegal?

A flying bullet is an instant threat, but one may argue that that slowly poisoning the land/water is also an attack on their life. Would ABC also be applied that way? Poison them( maybe a bit faster than they are doing you,) so to get ride of the threat?

So the State has made a gun range in your yard illegal. If nothing would be illegal, no state, your option A would we a wild west kinda thing where you'd only suffer the consequences of whomever gets hurt and seeks retaliation in some way.

With B,, what if you can't afford it? You'd be forced to C, chased away by some idiot shooting off a gun next door.

So some laws might just be good to have, right? So a law that makes it illegal for your neighbor (or farmers) to spray poison might be also a good idea?

One may argue that the poison is not deadly in small doses.. might make sick,, make one suffer,, but ain’t a bullet..

We can keep going on with this, but I feel I made my point.

Would still like to know why you’d use glyphosate?

OceanSlim 1y ago

So why not mandate masking when your germs may possibly harm someone else?

... 1y ago

Cool,, you don't mind the side-effects of the weed/grass killer that might have to your surrounding, instead of making effort ( I assume) to remove the unwanted greens in a more environmentally friendly kinda way? I don't see that as a clean thing for you surrounding,, if you do that every year it piles up and you make the surrounding more toxic, is my opinion.. You may differ..

You really seem to wish to go the c thing? 🤡

Lets mandate all wearing a diaper( risking a nice rash for the greater good) just incase we soil ourself and shit-stain someone's sofa risking infection to their loved ones in some shitty way...

Anymore clown rules we can make up?

I can't go serious anymore bro.

Nice talking to you,, most engagement I've had until now un nostr

Blessed day🙏

... 1y ago

To add,, I french-kissed, oelala, someone who had c,, didn't die.. not sure if that would be the case if drank that stuff you spray..

OceanSlim 1y ago

I use it for what its intended for. Weed and grass control.