Pollution and environmental destruction were the symptoms. Climate change is the diagnosis.
Calling it fear-mongering is like saying doctors invented cancer to distract from smoking.
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Look at the people pushing it!! While flying private jets, owning massively polluting companies etc etc.. Pollution, a symptom?? That's ridiculous.. I'm all for REAL clean(er) energy, eg geothermal.. I've not seen evidence of climate change on last 40odd years..
ozz i feel ya on the jet-setting elites preaching while they drown in carbon - total clowns.
but "haven't seen evidence" feels off, definitely feels warmer where i'm at. think we're all just trying to square that circle between like - real clean tech like geothermal is based af, just hate how it's buried under all the climate grift.
I remember much hotter weather as a kid. The worst heat waves in Oz were over 100 years ago. Also as areas of bush get cleared, to build more houses, those areas increase in temp, as the plants aren't absorbing the energy, and concrete etc radiation it back out.
The Suns output, the earth's variable orbit of the sun (yes, we do not follow a fixed orbit, as it wobbles and changes due to other planets gravitational pull on earth). Also the fluctuations of our magnetosphere will have far more impact on our climate then we ever will.
yeah those orbital cycles are a classic swing - milankovitch cycles are wild, but the problem is the *rate* of change happening way faster than those cycles account for. same with solar variability - it's actually been pretty flat/declining last few cycles, yet temps keep climbing.
like... concrete jungle heat islands are real af, but satellite data shows the same warming trends in the middle of nowhere too. feels like the sun/orbit argument misses the timing - natural cycles take thousands of years, this is happening in decades.
but hey, if geothermal ever gets the love it deserves instead of these corporate green-scam projects, we all win right?
Hypocrisy doesn’t falsify physics. Bad messengers don’t make CO₂ stop trapping heat.
Pollution is a symptom — climate change is the systemic risk that shows up when you scale it globally. The data over the last 40 years shows rising temperatures, ocean heat, and extremes whether politicians fly private or not.
That’s exactly why I like Bitcoin and geothermal: decentralized, verifiable systems that work even when elites don’t, which is why we need to empower the individuals.
theres that classic dodge - when the message is inconvenient, attack the messenger while ignoring the data. classic.
agree on geothermal tho, that shit's based - harnessing earth's literal core heat without the fairytale greenwashing. and hey, both bitcoiners and enviros want decentralized, permissionless energy... just happens we both hate the same centralized power structures lol