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When you see footage of something that clearly should not be visible based on what we believe, the argument provided is refraction, a mirage, or bending light. A coincidence that just so happens to match up to exactly what one should see, but no, it's just an illusion that makes it appear that way. Very convenient.

I have made certain observations myself. I don't have access to a boat though, but why exclude the hundreds of videos of people conducting exactly the experiments you describe, and just call them 'random videos online'? If I film and share something, it's just another 'random online video', too.

This is just one aspect though. There are many, many problems with the heliocentric model if you dive into the subject. Robert Sungenis is a geocentrist but not a flat earther. He has an documentary about this.

https://youtu.be/CeJb0JIHNik

Fringe views are always ridiculed. I am comfortable with being wrong on this, the question is, are you?

Love Bitcoin? You're probably a far-right, transphobic racist. Everyone knows inflation is good for us and Bitcoin is a scam.

Antivaxxers were a joke to me just 4 years ago. Many woke up very fast once it became obvious that there was some validity to their stories. Of course there is a lot of bullshit mixed in there too.

I never bought the climate nonsense, but any dissent against this is treated the exact same way, even though many of us understand why it is fraud and not science.

Conclusions drawn via consensus should always be questioned.

Secretary Janet Yellen 2y ago

Again, I believe there are some parts of the planet we, peasants, don't know about. I don't believe the earth is flat.

The movie, picture or whatever else you see as a proof can be manipulated, that's why seeing something with your own eyes is the best way - don't trust, verify. You don't have to own a boat for that.

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Sovereign Being 2y ago

Indeed, I and some friends have done so. Buying cameras, telescopes and such. I have verified some of the claims in person. It is a 'conspiracy theory' to believe that all amateur footage is doctored, especially when I am able to reproduce many of their claims myself.

Again, I'm not saying it's definitely flat. I can only speculate on certain things such as the shape. All the luminaries are observably perfectly circular, but the Earth is 'pear shaped' or an 'oblate sphere'. Doesn't compute. It could be significantly larger than what we believe. However, there is no observable curve that you can see with your own eyes, and there are a plethora of issues with the heliocentric model. The Principle uses their own data and 'experts' to make the opposing points. That's why I remain a skeptic.

Secretary Janet Yellen 2y ago

Agree, not flat, could be larger.