OK I managed to listen to this mostly.

A lot of the message from nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgwwaehxw309ahx7uewd3hkctcpz4mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzvuhsqgzrapl4csk9ky7pjwl3umefwsx259puuqfz3tjt6jcxy4yrgkqv4ga64368 and Mark Goodwin of nostr:nprofile1qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qgcwaehxw309aex2mrp0yhxxatjwfjkuapwveukjtcpr4mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt4w35ku7thv9kxcet59e3k7mf0qqs9n7lwwd5a7acnmwl6nw7mpzfvvt46j2fryc2udle8sldrsn9hwrczyes4m amount to 'warnings' that Larry Fink and Blackrock (and others), while pumping the BTC price higher (Scott Stapp: can you take me higher!? :P) are not to be thought of as 'good' in general and have a history of criminality. I agree with that but I guess my original question was more technical - how can they affect the Bitcoin Network technically and disrupt it? I don't think they can at least in the short term baring some technological revolution which I don't rule out - but thats another topic for me to talk about later. This podcast doesn't deal with the technical aspects but listening to it did give me some food for thought and further my understanding.

One way they might 'nefariously use' Bitcoin is to use it as a collateral to rebase their debt ridden system ie re-collateralize the US Govt debt so that the ratio of debt to valuable hard assets is more favourable and hence the economic system is not in jeopardy. This could mean the existing financial system is not in jeopardy as some say and they can continue to have a lot of economic resource in a fiat system. They would not base this on Bitcoin but more likely XRP or ISO20022 based tokens imo.

Whitney outlines that this concept is in line with their existing work to tokenize natural resources in a new 'green investment' initiatives.

In essence they are recollateralising the debt with hard assets like natural resources (forests, lakes etc) and Bitcoin which in some sense is just cryptographic energy (energy being a hard asset also) a la nostr:nprofile1qywhwumn8ghj7mn0wd68yttjv4kxz7fwwak8vuewwdcxzcm99uq3samnwvaz7tmwdaehgu3wvekhgtnhd9azucnf0ghszxthwden5te0wfjkccte9eekummjwsh8xmmrd9skctcqyz35razll96c74c2yxcqpstafef68fyhequh7fkqumtpukk0l3afstqwvvw understanding of Bitcoin.

Another interesting aspect Webb and Goodwin illuminate is their 'rhetorical dexterity'. One of the ways that Blackrock and large players work is that they change their rhetoric based on the political winds. Eg WEF does lefty rhetoric (and policy) for a while -> people become wise to it and sick of it and rebel politically (eg farmers all around the world but specifically Dutch farmers). They then just start to do right wing rhetoric like 'free markets' type stuff so people are not upset at them anymore.

For eg, at WEF conference Milei seemingly criticised the WEF and its policies but in reality the WEF doesn't mind if he does as they are probably working together and are simply changing their rhetoric to right for a few years til people become wise to that angle as well.

The WEF and other oligarchs lets say have the ability to switch rhetorics and still maintain their goals of enriching themselves while enslaving the rest of us. This is because the WEF is about public/private partnership at a high level and that can take the form of a focus on public control ie govt or private control eg supposed 'free markets'. Thing is that in both govt and free market versions of rhetoric the power ultimately still rests with oligarchs who still have the resource to fund and corrupt the players in each scenario. After all, in a recollateralised system as described above they still have the ability to do 'fiat' creation of money and continually fund the same type of corruption of left and right politics as they have been doing.

Both the left and the right has ways in which they can control. Their main goal is control not that it needs to be control from the left of right specifically. They are all just different 'faces' to the oligarchy anyhow. Very good observation their by Webb and Goodwin and aligns with my own understandings of how power operates.

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