My hope is that, eventually, all these little services will skip the signup/credit hell and let us pay in sats outright.
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There’s more and more of them popping up! Super exciting!!! nostr:note1wdunh54t9xse7ehamfgv88t5uxmz2ggntaqaguj94ses8cke4l2sewh99w
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Hey Gigi. What are your thoughts on the quantum computing attack vector. Hearing more about this.
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It will always depend on how compliant the service decides to be with laws and taxes. If they want to be legal, they will have to ID you somehow to invoice you "correctly". Doesn't matter if you pay in fiat, BTC or whatever.
Interesting. So selling a fax without kyc-ing a customer is illegal?
Is selling a phone card that allows you to make a phone call without kyc-ing the caller illegal?
I didn't say KYC and said ID instead in purpose. KYC is specific of the banking and financial sectors.
In any case, in Europe at least, selling anything online without charging the corresponding sales tax is illegal, at the very least. And any income you make on that sale has to be justified and declared.
Cool service but too expensive, 6.5 eur for one page to European country.
If that service has traffic i would setup that service my self and offer half the price.
Most European countries are pretty cheap. What country are you looking for?
Norway
It says 20 cents a page.
Well..... It says one thing in a list and another when trying to send.
Ooo. My bad I'm sorry about that. Not sure what that's about. Maybe they have a minimum or something.
Hey there, I posted this on Stacker News where I heard about the website, (I blurred out the phone number) someone wrote back:
"Yo, Bitcoin Fax is my baby.
Pass me the number on that email address or on nostr and I will take a look.
The price page is a base price per page, though some numbers are special.
Some fax numbers allow you to charge a premium so people are discouraged to send faxes. Kind of like reverse charges.
Unfortunately it's not an exact science."
I didn't want to pass along any info of yours of course without your permission. But I wanted to relay this message.
Link to page at https://stacker.news/items/163456
You can pass along the number. It's a cellular phone number. It might be the reason is expensive ?
Oh... it's a cell number not a fax number? Yeah, that's probably it.
A cell number can also be a fax number......
Hey, calling cell numbers can be/are more expensive than landlines. The price per page is the cheapest for that country, which are landlines.
Find any fax number in Norway, and plug it in. e.g. Here is a fax to the Norway Ministry of Affairs. The price is realistic.
What I meant by that was all the little (online) services that now force you to sign up, and bully you into a premium subscription.
Conversion tools, image and file hosts, scraper and download tools, editing tools, etc.
Basically anything that is an actual service (compute & storage) should work like a vending machine: sats go in, service comes out. No sign-ups or identity required, because sats are money proper (not credit).
Great leading examples that already allow payment in sats are VPNs and everything around nostr.
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Absolutely this. 🤙
I couldn’t agree more!
I'm passionate about this vision and already strive to incorporate it into my life as much as possible. User interfaces have nearly reached a point where they are easy and accessible for everyone. While widespread Bitcoin adoption is still a work in progress, I'm curious to know how we could overcome the strong economic appeal of subscription models?
ideally per service