Nostr Web Client

This approach doesn’t change the current model at all, it only moves part of the client’s workload onto a specialized relay.

For example, if someone follows too many users and the outbox model becomes painful for them, they can run a local relay that automatically pulls events from their followings’ write relays. Then they just browse that relay with Jumble. This is actually a feature I’ve wanted to add to nostr-relay-tray for a long time, but have kept putting off. And of course, if they don’t want to run a local relay themselves, they can wait for a paid service to offer it.

If someone doesn’t follow many users, or mostly browses relays directly, then they don’t need to do anything, they’re already perfectly happy with the outbox model.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 3w ago 💬 1

i personally think that anyone whose income comes purely from donations, and not from their own funding or investors with a plan to make a margin of profit is unqualified to talk about what nostr needs to get more users.

nostr is not going to become the next generation of web tech without making money. that's not gonna happen if it has no resistance to malicious actors. it's also not gonna happen unless people have a plan for it making money to at least maintain it after it's in production.

there is maybe 10,000 people in the world using it on at least a weekly basis. it has flatlined for the last two years. that's because people keep listening to people who have no skin in the game, like fiatjaf, who is using it as his bully pulpit.

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Cody 3w ago 💬 1

Nostr is just a communication protocol. The reason it isn’t generating revenue right now, in my opinion, isn’t because of the protocol itself. It’s simply that the people using it haven’t found the right ideas yet, or many are comfortable with the status quo. Nobody thinks today’s internet industry is profitable because of how the HTTP protocol was designed.

But if by nostr you mean the Twitter-like kind 1 clients, then I have a genuine question: what is the actual goal of a nostr kind 1 client?

A. Become the next Twitter.

In that case, we’d need to spend money bringing in influencers and give them ways to monetize on nostr, stronger ads, storefronts, creator tools, etc.

B. Become a place where ordinary people can speak freely and post their everyday, boring, normal lives. A platform where the main characters are regular users, not influencers.

If that’s the goal, then we’ve already achieved it. On Japanese and Chinese relays, most of the content is exactly that, simple, mundane posts from normal people.

ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴇᴀᴛʜ ᴏꜰ ᴍʟᴇᴋᴜ 3w ago

the reason why the legacy social media make money is because so much money is being thrown at controlling what people think, advertising and propaganda.

the protocol is just a protocol. it has nothing to do with the problem. it's like comparing Thunderbird to Outlook. almost nobody is usivg mozilla's version anymore, and it's barely changed in 20 years. Outlook is still holding users because it's part of Exchange and 365

the same difference. protocol is free, but nobody can build something with it forever on donations and personal savings.