Nostr Web Client

Kind 3 was probably a mistake, following could have been local or private by default, and assigning public "trust" to people could have been taken a more intentional form, with more structure to it rather than "whoever I want to see posts from I put in this list and now that person gets an endorsement from me".

But following people is still a good thing.

I do think the focus on following people should be drastically reduced (no one can really "follow" more than 100 people) and that we need more opinionated relays like wss://theforest.nostr1.com/ and more tools for browsing relays, recommending relays, publishing to specific relays.

It shouldn't be necessary for a new user to click on a follow button hundreds of times in order to get a feed. Clients shouldn't be required to send many hundreds of REQs (most of which will be about pubkeys that haven't posted anything for months) to a bunch of relays in order to build a default feed. That number can be cut drastically and Nostr can still work fine, in fact much better.

Laeserin 5mo ago

Yeah, it's why Jumble works quite smoothly, even though it's "only" a web app. Just slow-drips in the feed from 1-n relays and basta.

I don't "follow" a lot of people on my Kind 3 list, which means those few people get a noticeable WoT bump from me. Those are clearly npubs I am _actively recommending_.

I added a "lists" filter to the feed, and it reqs for the deduplicated aggregate list of all npub lists I select.

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Laeserin 5mo ago

The thing people mess up with lists, is that they don't force-fetch the req.

So, if I am looking at theforest feed and select the nostrdevs feed, it should

* figure out which npubs aren't included in TheForest feed (most/some of the list is probably included, as people tend to share relays with their frens),

* use outboxes, relay hints from their cached notes, NIP-05 relays, and/or aggregators to go out and hunt down _everything_ from those npubs, and update the map. Then the map is theforest-events + list-events, and the list events req is quite small.

Laeserin 5mo ago

Nostrdevs list, I mean. In other words, I expand the current feed with whomever is not already there.

You could also look at the list feed, alone, but leaving it like that, permanently, is why feeds get ossified. Opinionated and/or paid relays create a steady trickling-in of new npubs, that enrich the feed, while the list makes sure you don't miss your faves.