Is the car in space real?
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Lol. Ok. My point is that I can verify for myself that satellites exists, that the space station exists, etc. So maybe the car was a marketing stunt, but at the same time _I know_ (personally verified!) that we put stuff into space all the time, so I'm not sure what narrative the car would be perpetuating.
What shape is the earth?
I don't know the shape of the earth. I'm sure satellites and the space station exists, we have seen it on TV. But how did you verify they are in space? Did they discover a fuel that works in a vacuum?
You can measure the curvature of the earth yourself. Don't be satisfied with just being a keyboard warrior. Go do the experiment yourself. Don't trust, verify.
Something in orbit doesn't use fuel, it's just continually "falling". To get into space, rocket fuel includes an oxidizer to allow combustion in a vacuum. This is like super well known and understood science.
Have a nice day! Stay away from the edge of the planet ๐
Hehe, whenever I mention that Iโve done an open ocean crossing solo where I literally saw the curvature they just disregard it with no real argument against that at allโฆ
Pretty impressive mental distortion, that shit!
That is badass man. How long did that take? What kind of boat?
Actually it is one of the shortest crossings where you still see both shores disappear, 55 nautical miles or so, around 12 hours.
Not hard at all in a 27 Vega!
The difference between optical and physical evidence. If I say I can fly, would you believe me? What if I show you a video? By the way, what shape is your eye.. do you know how perspective works? ๐ซฃ
Level is not a shape, it's an orientation. Go read up on Euclidean geometry, you can verify for yourself. Verify, don't trust.
I said curvature. You're barking up the wrong tree, friend
How do you reconcile curvature with Euclidean geometry... I'll wait..
First, Euclidean geometry is a mathematical model that applies perfectly to flat surfaces, and itโs useful for small-scale calculations. However, when we deal with large scalesโlike the Earthโwe need to use non-Euclidean geometry (specifically spherical geometry) because the Earth is a three-dimensional object.
The concept of curvature youโre referring to doesnโt contradict Euclidean geometry; instead, it shows the limits of Euclidean geometry when applied to large, spherical objects like planets. Think of how map projections distort continents because a flat map canโt perfectly represent a spherical surface.
In fact, the Earth's curvature has been measured countless times through experiments like:
The Eratosthenes experiment (250 BC), which measured the Earth's circumference using the angle of shadows at two distant locations.
Satellites orbiting the Earth, which require precise knowledge of the Earthโs curvature to function properly.
Airplane flight paths, which use great circle routes, demonstrating how spherical geometry explains the shortest distance between two points on Earth, not Euclidean flat distances.
To claim the Earth is flat by using Euclidean geometry would be like insisting that because a triangle has 180 degrees in Euclidean geometry, it must also have 180 degrees on a spherical surfaceโwhich isnโt true. In spherical geometry, triangles can have more than 180 degrees, and thatโs been empirically verified.
So, the issue isnโt reconciling curvature with Euclidean geometryโitโs that Euclidean geometry isnโt the right tool for the job on a planetary scale. Using it to argue the Earth is flat is like using a ruler to measure the volume of a sphereโitโs the wrong tool for the task.
Special pleading fallacy. Either water has convexity or it doesn't! LOL ๐
No special pleading hereโjust basic physics and geometry. Water does conform to the shape of its container, and on Earth, that container is the curved surface of a sphere. At large scales, water follows the curvature of the Earth due to gravity.
You can observe this curvature over large bodies of water with experiments like:
โข Ship hulls disappearing first as they move away from shore, which wouldnโt happen if the Earth were flat.
โข Lighthouses being visible from farther away the higher they are, another clear sign of curvature.
โข The Bedford Level Experiment, which initially seemed to support flat Earth but, when repeated correctly with proper controls, confirmed Earthโs curvature.
If water didnโt follow Earthโs curvature, satellite imagery, aircraft navigation, and even basic GPS wouldnโt work. The fact that we use curvature in these technologiesโand they function perfectlyโshows this isnโt about preference or special pleading; itโs about observable, measurable reality.
Does water take the shape of a glass of water when you poor it or is it ALWAYS level? Again, special pleading fallacy.
Gravity doesn't exist, objects are not falling, the earth is moving upwards.
Someone doesn't understand what a special pleading fallacy is. I haven't stated any exceptions, you just don't understand scale or gravity :D This has been legitimately funny so thank you for that