Wants to change Bitcoin, or is alarmed that others are changing it?

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There is no side in the debate that doesn’t want to change something. I don’t care which side you’re on, but I’m not going to entertain anyone’s opinion who doesn’t have a financial stake in it.

"but I’m not going to entertain anyone’s opinion who doesn’t have a financial stake in it." So that's all the traders ... thrown under the bus; irrelevant according to you? ... This is insane reasoning.

Even if traders had an opinion on the technical design of bitcoin (which I doubt they do), even they have some semblance of a financial stake in its future, at least to the extent that its technical design affects their ability to profit from it.

many core devs dont have no stake in it.

mechanic has stake in it.

he doesn't say that he doesn't hold any bitcoin.

You and I interpret “rotating out of bitcoin” differently.

i know it doesn't mean "im selling everything".

we all use our bitcoin when we need to.

I spend bitcoin sometimes too. Completely different than “I’ve begun rotating out of it” but at this point you’re being pedantic. Discussion over. Have a nice night.

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Changing a relay policy default is not the same thing as the soft fork suggested by these people.