This might help.. Jay says that quote & makes reference to the paper at 25 min in this Nov 13, 2023 TwiV Immunomythology but I can't read the paper on his screen but if you can read the URL it should be saved in Wayback since it's my hobby to try to verify any valuable reference has backup. https://rumble.com/v3xfu8h-2023-11-13-hpv-twiv-immunomythology-101-2100est-13-nov-2023-twitch197690714.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
