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This is also why voting is very likely immoral.

Taxation is theft. Government threatens force to collect taxes. Electing people to government is akin to forcing others to okay for BS. This whole system is broken and unneeded.

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Leo Fernevak 1y ago

I wouldn't call voting immoral.

How about voting for a candidate like Milei?

Yes, we shouldn't be able to vote away other people's property rights or individual liberties but that is a problem of government power and overreach. Voting to reduce government power is never immoral.

The main problems are the monetary monopoly, central banks, moneyprinting and the large size of jurisdictions.

If jurisdictions are small enough and people can access hard money (bitcoin), the outcome of voting is largely irrelevant since people can vote with their feet and choose a better jurisdiction.

Proper competition brings about a game theory where jurisdictions have to attract capital and skills in return for liberties. This is the endgame of bitcoin as the best store of value.

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The Beave 1y ago

While a agree that voting is less harmful when government is restrained in the confines of a hard money system, we are well past that point and it all needs to be gotten rid of. Voting will not achieve that.

Leo Fernevak 1y ago

That's your evaluation.

By saying that it is immoral to vote, you take the stance that your evaluation overrides the evaluation of others.

People will evaluate voting differently.

The Beave 1y ago

Sure. That is fine. As long as I'm not forced to deal with the results of that mess. I am now, therefore, it is immoral. IMO.

Leo Fernevak 1y ago

The current system does not vanish just because liberty advocates stop voting.

The establishment does not care if the liberty right votes or not. In fact, they would rather that the liberty contingent does not vote since rigging elections is harder the more votes they need to rig.

Separating money from the state and voting with our feet and capital is the primary method of pressuring jurisdictions to align with individual liberties and property rights.

The Beave 1y ago

Well, yes. But that's also part of not participating. I don't expect the whole system to change just because I leave, but, if enough people just ignore it, it won't be able RI function since it is fueled by how much attention we give it.

WienerMemer 1y ago

It would be easy to ignore it when the State is small enough. But when politicians and their stupid policies invade your way of life. Is time to participate.

And, never the State is small enough, LOL

The Beave 1y ago

I don't think the state deserves any participation since I believe the whole institution of the state is actually fundamentally evil at this point. I do not wish to participate in increasing evil in the world, therefore I will not participate in this state, at least as much as I am able to at this point.

WienerMemer 1y ago

Fair.

In Chile we don't have much choice. Vote is obligatory, if I don't vote, I'll have to pay a fine.

For politicians is a very profitable business, because they get money for every vote. Some are candidates just for that. They know they'll will lose an election, but they are there just for the money.

My vote this year will be void, so no one gets a single dime from my ballot. And I'll have the oportunity to draw some meme.

The Beave 1y ago

That's an awful system. 🫂

WienerMemer 1y ago

Not just awful. It is also immoral within the law.

Furthermore, the Communist Party uses the weaknesses of the democratic system to destroy everything it touches. Including democracy, of course.

For example, in Santiago, the capital of Chile, they register people from other cities as inhabitants of Santiago so that they appear as voters of that city. All with the same address, a hotel room that "houses" thousands of people. LOL.

What does the opposition do, postulate someone of "clean wheat"?no. They postulate as candidate someone who has similar ideas of politics and who defends those bad habits. They are accomplices.

The only possible thing to do in these cases is to cancel the vote.

WienerMemer 1y ago

What meme should I draw in a ballot?

The Beave 1y ago

But Chad saying nobody.

Joel Walbert 1y ago

Voting forces one's ideals on others who may not want that and there is a lot of guns to make sure you do play along. Voting gives people 'power' to make 'laws' that put people in cages for all sorts of non-crimes. Voting gives 'power' to make 'laws' that steal more of our money through taxation and inflation. Voting gives 'power' to allow large scale war. Almost all the world's problems stem from the vote. Because nearly every problem in the world is a result of control freak psychopaths who call themselves government (which means mind control by the way).