This is why ie6 lasted so long, too scared to rip the bandaid

Nip04 is just bad it's better to fix it now while we're small and go through some short term pain imo

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can it be blocked at the relay level? relays could just stop accepting them, that' would orce the hand of devs to remove it.

Good point, I will remove it from my relays

We still use it for otp, so i doubt we would just remove it unless someones wants to rewrite our otp code. It’s easy for people who don’t have existing code around to say just remove it.

Yes it's definitely easier to say than fix, but don't you agree it's bad for DMs?

Obviously

Always has been the case, people just make a blank statement “ is bad” and have 0 regard for all that came before or relies on it. Plus “bad” is only based on use case, and nothing more than that.