I believe they can on some clients already but they won’t
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Any ideas for a good solution to this?
Curious on your perspective about this also
Yes, get rid of global.
Just turn off media loading in global
Or this 🙌
That just makes it a 50/50 coinflip game, as a lot of the NSFW content is posted without context.
Maybe image description could fix this?
Don’t go to global to click images?
I mean, we’ll eventually just have onboarding to follow tags and topics instead of going to global. That should fix some of those issues.
And have it more indexed, like subreddits on Reddit?
I’ve always looked at Global as the ‘city center’ of Nostr in terms of the communication aspect.
Depends where you work. Who is it “not suitable” for?
True. Nonadults.
In that case it is a parenting issue, not Damus’s problem. 
Yeah true, fair enough from that angle.
But the rest of my points still stand 💜
Not really. Who is not suitable for? You? Then turn off images from people you don’t follow.
That’s a workaround, not a fix though 🤔
Not that I disagree with it by any means, I just find it too binary, and want to raise the question if a better way was possible 💜
It’s not a workaround. It’s a user side filtering mechanism. “Better” is an arbitrary measurement. You’re asking for censorship and that has important implications beyond the use case that concerns you.
I think I’m thinking more towards something similar to the ability to mute hashtags 🤔
It wouldn’t completely cut it out for the user, but it would definitely decrease the amount of it 💜
Mute words
Yep, maybe image recognition that makes image descriptions, and the muted words would also apply to those image descriptions 🤔
To be clear I’m not encouraging you to look at porn. But you have to realize that anything you imagine that can be used to censor adult images from your feed without your consent can and will also be used to censor other things without your consent. You have the option not to see images from people you follow. Mute words, mute hashtags, would be a good option to add. But anything auto generating which words describe an image would be abused.
Oh absolutely, just thinking out loud here, trying to consider different possibilities and just raise the question about it, so we can understand how we see things here as a community, and what’s the more common feeling and understanding about the topic.
And yeah, agreed, the image description thing is too easily abusable, and would only work in a perfect world 💜
The solution is to not have global at all.
This way you can opt into whatever content you want to see without having to worry about seeing nsfw stuff.
But how do you make sure and guarantee that certain categories tags will have that certain content in it, and it just won’t turn into a wild west?
Or is that an unavoidable thing? 🤔💜
Unavoidable. Porn can spam any tag too and this will happen.
In that case you implement relay-side filtering that filters all auto-detected porn and use that relay as your feed.
I don’t think that exists yet but it could. People who oppose that, just don’t use that relay.
Huh, good idea 🤔💜
Could also switch between SFW-only, NSFW + SFW and NSFW-only global content like this dependant on personal preference 🤙
Which “we” and which “community” though? “Common feeling” among who? Nostr is already a global network of users geographically, and it becomes more and more obvious that it is global in the scope of its use cases. I think it is helpful to define who a problem applies to and who the “solution” would impact.
I stated myself as the user here with a problem and a potential idea.
Defined the problem, idea for a solution and the reasoning.
I am always looking to be wrong and be proven wrong also.
I’d like to see more of a targeted approach to this, instead of everything or nothing.
With blurring it’s just a coinflip, and I’d still have no idea what the content is behind it.
Blurring basically is taking a stance on global, that just because I don’t potentially want to see NSFW content, I can’t see SFW content either, only leaving me at a 50/50 coinflip at best when clicking on it
I don’t want anybody’s content to be censored here, I would just love an option to toggle it off from my perspective 💜
Maybe an algorithm for that in the #nostrscript marketplace, that is optional for the users implement could be something
All love man 💜 My point was just that the common feeling of the community will depend on which community you’re referring to. I think approaching it from the perspective you just articulated so well is the better approach. Finding solutions that allow you and each individual to control what we see leaves each user in control. Client filters, relays with localized filtering for excluding certain content for those who want that filtering, etc can accomplish that. It will also be interesting to see the impact of nostr:npub1l2vyh47mk2p0qlsku7hg0vn29faehy9hy34ygaclpn66ukqp3afqutajft ‘s data vending machine idea on this, where a user could generate a custom algorithm only for them. The key factor for censorship-resistance, which is the point of Nostr, is that each user remains in control of their experience as much as possible. I don’t hear you suggesting otherwise, but I think it’s important to dig into topics like this and explore potential implications of what seems like a simple request. Great question, and great conversation 🫂🤙
Having to filter each and every account posting adult material is not even possible today, let alone when the site grows. It’s not a solution.
(I’ve been trying it)
With that said, it’s probably the best solution there can be for now until clients implement filtering.
The global feed is the firehouse of posts coming across nostr, it’s up to the clients to come up with mechanisms for filtering before it hits users eyes.
For example, I mentioned to nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s Will that it would be nice if a user could create a list of other users for the proposes of following or blocking and he said something like that will come someday.
That would essentially allow a member of the community to create a NSFW posting list to filter out from view and others could subscribe to it.
That’s just an idea but none of that is here yet. We can wait.
On device ML algorithm that censors that stuff? I don’t know w how hard to implement?
If people politely ask them and remind them when needed, I’m sure they’d comply
I just would love it if it was like a voluntary thing for the people, for both ends.
Maybe the ability to mute hashtags?
This way mostly works in my opinion. It won’t be 💯 working but first option should be voluntary interactions otherwise we risk going down the path recreating the same policed communities