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Why Do you believe that God intends you to reach the elect people?

God from all eternity decrees who will be saved (the elect), and He has also eternally decreed the means by which He will save them: the faithful sharing of the Gospel by His people.

Election guarantees the success of evangelism; evangelism is the God-ordained instrument that actually brings the elect to faith. Both the end (who is saved) and the means (preaching and Christian witness) are sovereignly chosen by God.

- Romans 10:13–17

- 1 Corinthians 1:21

- Acts 13:48

- 2 Timothy 2:10

- Ephesians 4:11–13 + 1 Corinthians 3:5–9

- John 17:20

- James 1:18 + 1 Peter 1:23–25

- Acts 18:9–10

- Matthew 28:19–20 & Mark 16:15 combined with Romans 1:16

- Titus 1:1–3

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OgFOMK ArTS 1mo ago

Electorial College

1 John 2:2

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 Timothy 4:10

10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

Hebrews 2:9

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.

2 Corinthians 5:14-15

14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:

15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

John 12:32

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

Laser 1mo ago

Those that believe are drawn to Christ by God, as the Bible teaches us.

"Died for them and rose again" refers to the elect that God sent Christ to save for Him(self).

Christ died for all of God's elect, saving every single soul and not failing to save one whom God sent Him to save.

OgFOMK ArTS 1mo ago

1 Timothy 2:3-4

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2 Peter 3:9

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

John 3:16

16 ¶ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Matthew 11:28

28 ¶ Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Revelation 22:17

17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Laser 1mo ago

- Romans 10:13–17

- 1 Corinthians 1:21

- Acts 13:48

- 2 Timothy 2:10

- Ephesians 4:11–13 + 1 Corinthians 3:5–9

- John 17:20

- James 1:18 + 1 Peter 1:23–25

- Acts 18:9–10

- Matthew 28:19–20 & Mark 16:15 combined with Romans 1:16

- Titus 1:1–3

Laser 1mo ago

Those who come freely to Christ do so because God has regenerated their heart, effectively sending them to His Son.

The unregenerate are in that way *more* free than the saved, but not a single one wants Christ and will come freely.

Genesis 6:5

“The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

Romans 3:10–18 (quoting Psalms 14 & 53)

“None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one… There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

Romans 8:7–8

“For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God’s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God"

Ephesians 2:4–5 (shows the only remedy)

“But God, being rich in mercy… even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ.”

John 6:44

“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him.”

OgFOMK ArTS 1mo ago

Dude,

You are taking things out of context and omitting parts. I question your translation as well.

John 6:44-47 KJV No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

45. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

46. Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.

47. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting lif...

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Eph 2:4-5 KJV But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

5. Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

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You are adding things that don't exist. Manipulating based on the TULIP nonsense which is apostasy.

Our God is a living God and we are living for his name's sake. He is by no means finished in his work and we are by no means automatons. The LORD Jesus Christ is active molding, folding and cultivating.

The sword for sharpening will have choice of the master and choice of the servant. Both the master and servant will follow the law. The master by grace has allowed the sinful servant by faith in the blood to be sanctified and perfected.

The elect and chosen are the Jewish people. The ones who will be saved are those who have elected to follow Jesus Christ, both Jew and Gentile, who hear the message and are moved by the Holy Spirit.

The devil is very happy to have morons using the Bible to contradict the Bible. There is no contradiction. God is not a liar. Unlike Buddhist, Hindu and Islamic texts or any other Babylonian humanism, the King James Bible is the Sanctified English Instrument that is the foundation we build in opposition to the ecumenical satanic movement that mocks God.

The heart is only hardened by God when the message is ignored, mocked and there is no repentance.

God is not finished with his work. He is at rest and we are at rest in him but he is not finished with his work.

OgFOMK ArTS 1mo ago

There's a whole Bible, Brother. A whole Bible.

Parallel Structures 1mo ago

Do you think there's still action required by the elect? Such as repentance and a heart towards God. Seems as if He's still given us free will and would like to see as many saved as possible. Is it just that he already knows who chooses to turn towards Him?

Laser 1mo ago

The elect are animated to action by God's regenerating them in Christ. The works are the evidence, not the cause, of their salvation.

God doesnt pre-choose based on knowing who turns to Christ of their own free will, because nobody is good enough to do that, instead God has selected people (based on His purposes and nothing to do with those people) to regenerate into Christian saints who will be transformed and remain in Christ until they perish.

OgFOMK ArTS 1mo ago

Genesis 4:7

7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Isaiah 55:6-7

6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:

7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Ezekiel 18:30-32

30 Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.

31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

Acts 17:30

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Romans 1:20

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: