Subnostr

As a soldier who served next to quite a few female soldiers, and as an open sexist:

I detest females being in the military.

1. They are the biggest distraction.

2. They cause unnecessary drama everywhere they are. Men fighting for their attention, men fighting over who gets to sleep with them, pregnancy, abortions, and the male tendency to save women is also a significant battle risk.

3. Obviously less physically capable.

Some of the best soldiers I served with were females, too, but, I'd still prefer to have none.

I was in a strange place in my stint. I was in the last basic training that was strictly all male. The stark contrast between that environment and the rest of my time around females of all ranks and MOSs (jobs) was completely different. I behaved differently. I am a "big brother." I felt obligated to shield and protect females in a way that I would never consider as correct for a fellow male soldier. I would have readily disobeyed orders in order to protect my friends, if I thought that was the correct thing to do, and, again, part of that was the male drive to protect females.

Pulling a trigger remotely doesn't protect you from trauma. We should not be traumatizing our women like that. It sucks for the men, too, but, it's not the same. So, my unpopular opinion is that they're should be no females in the military. Period. Full stop.

LuisSP 2y ago

military should care only about max( lethality+readness ) and min ( cost ). Not woke equality pipedreams.

veterans' healthcare will cost more for women in any job with physical exertion, as infantery or jet pilots. USA and Israelis already found that. If men get hurt, women, even the ones who pass all physical tests, will get hurt more often ==> decades of veterans health costs.

Any love drama decreases readness. Like USA having to dissolve a whole ship crew due to a love triangle involving top officials.

Any separate accomodations will increase cost, time to build, use precious space. More WC, quarters, etc.

Prediction: this soldier-woman pipedream will disappear on the first serious war against a near-pair (same tech level) but nasty enemy.

Every day, another video of women soldiers getting raped until death. Or of women being overwhelmed on close quarters combat.

Daily humiliation will do wonders for morale. It will become clear that the girl-army will be the loser army.

On the other hand, most of modern military are non-combat troops.

one can have buildings full of women analysts, logistics number crunchers, back-side (not frontlines) medical personnel, long range UAV operators, etc. Just another set of public workers with nicer uniforms. they can even be a good % of military, far away from physical demands or combat.

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The Beave 2y ago

I'd agree with most of this, except that I don't think women will ever be weeded out completely.

No-combat troops are a pipedream. Someone will always need to pull a trigger in person.

LuisSP 2y ago

non-combat are most people on modern militaries.

there are plenty of space for woman, safely well away from frontlines

that was my point. but yes, they all depend on the hardcore guys.

The Beave 2y ago

They are still an issue even not being on the front lines. It's still a mess if they are in the system at all.

Women do not belong in the military.

LuisSP 2y ago

In WW-II only one US servicewoman was captured by the germans in the western front

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcmLdBgGmDs

the rules are messy *because* women are in combat roles or too close to front lines and compete for the same promotions.

if they were safely behind, the rules would not be messy. Their carreer paths would not cross combat soldiers' paths. Their actual military training would be so minimal that nobody would think about sending them near combat.

In WW-II there were separate auxiliary branches for woman, even for pilots https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_Airforce_Service_Pilots They were a continent away from combat and no combat pilot ever feared losing his promotion to them.

if women can not do admin work safely in the capital... then... they can not be public workers too.

The Beave 2y ago

I am *exceptionally* familiar with that segregation and it is still not acceptable. I don't care if it seems irrational, I will not ever concede any other stance that ALL FEMALES SHOULD NOT BE IN THE ARMED SERVICES, and preferably not even in civilian contracted support operations. At all. Period. It is a failure of men to have let this happen in the first place. It's gross and unnatural.