Nostr Web Client

Nostr 对 Mastodon 总结的缺点：1. 用户 id 和域名绑定、2. 服务器可以 ban 人、3. 服务器迁移需要兼容、4. 服务方运营没有激励、5. 服务方互相推送麻烦

在第 1 点和第 3 点上 Nostr 是解决了，第 2 点因为 Relay ban 用户不会导致其损失社交联系和数据，所以也可认为已解决。第 5 点在 Nostr 上不需要 Relay 相互推送，而是靠 Client 同时拉取数据，所以相当于规避了它，当然以后也可能出现一方 Relay 爬取其它 Relay 数据的现象。唯有没有激励这个问题在 Nostr 上也是存在的。

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Discussion

Frost 3y ago

IM 和 Publish 功能具有社交黏性，最理想地话是吸引用户付费订阅。内嵌 LN 也有机会让服务方成为 LN 上的核心节点，有利可图。

Frost 3y ago

如果从 IM 隐私性的要求看，Nostr 的 Client 和 Relay 通过 WebSocket 直连是不行的，Client 的 IP 对于 Relay 没有隐私可言。应该使用 LN 作为底层传输层，这样免费获得了类似 Tor 的保护。

jb55 3y ago

You don't need LN for this, why not just use a websocket proxy?

0xtr 3y ago

I translated the last sentence to "The only problem with no incentives exists on Nostr as well". I don't agree with this. Either you run a node free of charge to support the cause or you could host a node that only accepts events from public keys that have sent an amount of sats.

0xtr 3y ago

Anyways, it's nice to see the Chinese on here as well. Welcome!

Frost 3y ago

I agree with you. Operators can charge users to break even. What I meant above is that there is no incentive scheme defined inside the protocol. From the minimal protocol positioning of Nostr, it may be correct not to include an incentive scheme.