Yeah, it's not particularly relevant for their day to day life yet.

It's starting to get to the point where I can work in Bitcoin relevant topics like inflation & taxation without going into a rant (like I do with seed oils).

The loan is a prime example & will demonstrate the power of Bitcoin. She wants to put $15k of the $25k into Bitcoin & then slowly repay it.

She is fearful of debt (I'm honestly not sure where that comes from) & that's where I got to introduce the concept of a productive asset. Things are slowly starting to fall into place.