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has anyone thought/written about data-processing services via nostr?

I'm thinking of, as nostr:npub1dergggklka99wwrs92yz8wdjs952h2ux2ha2ed598ngwu9w7a6fsh9xzpc says, a vending machine model.

Money in, data out.

Example:

I publish an event saying I want "X data processed in Y form, will pay Z", services compete to serve me the data back.

Rationale:

I'm integrating audio/video highlights on nostr:npub1w0rthyjyp2f5gful0gm2500pwyxfrx93a85289xdz0sd6hyef33sh2cu4x (cc nostr:npub1kuy0wwf0tzzqvgfv8zpw0vaupkds3430jhapwrgfjyn7ecnhpe0qj9kdj8 nostr:npub18lzls4f6h46n43revlzvg6x06z8geww7uudhncfdttdtypduqnfsagugm3 ); instead of handling the transcription within Highlighter (which is what I'm doing now via the `whisper` model), what if users could query for that specific service and pay for it directly to the right service provider?

Ideally, the user would have no "account" or "balance" on any of the service providers (vending machines don't have balances!), and ideally only the "best" (as understood by the user) is rewarded.

The way I imagine it working is:

* user publishes X event with the job spec

* service providers that can handle that job spec compete to serve it (risk!)

* when service provider serves the data the user pays to the "best" service provider

Ideally there would be no negotiation steps between user<>provider, at least for inexpensive compute.

Obviously there's risk to the service provider here, but it's risk that would be very easy to price/handle for a motivated service provider.

The upside is a transparent, always-on global marketplace for data-processing/compute.

I love this vision! I think this is what we’re moving toward with L402. My best guess is that it will be machines competing to offer data / services to other machines instead of humans. So imagine asking gpt-engineer or some AI assistant to plan a vacation for you or whatever. And in the background it’s calling dozens of APIs/services. One call for weather data to choose a place (paying 100 sats for nostr:npub1getal6ykt05fsz5nqu4uld09nfj3y3qxmv8crys4aeut53unfvlqr80nfm‘s weather data service), another call to book the flights, another call to Waymo to pick you up, etc.

One q for me is where to begin here? What data or service is valuable enough to justify the paid call. Could be calling another LLM bc the compute costs are real. Could be accessing some valuable data source that’s already paywalled.

Basically where will the L402 takeoff begin?

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I'm scratching my own itch here

I want podcast transcriptions on nostr:npub1w0rthyjyp2f5gful0gm2500pwyxfrx93a85289xdz0sd6hyef33sh2cu4x

* you add a podcast URL to highlighter, it sees it's a podcast (or a nostr:npub1zapstrdhq7rxrw224apgvs5ajlh9y473f2rdd0a9fjcys2u8d7cqzxqhp9 event)

* it shows you a "Transcribe" button, you click it and it posts the job spec with the audio file saying that it wants a transcription

* someone (initially nostr:npub1w0rthyjyp2f5gful0gm2500pwyxfrx93a85289xdz0sd6hyef33sh2cu4x ) fulfills the job

* user pays

* success

It's a very simple use case, but it's valuable and economical and unlocks the whole primitive of a computation marketplace.

What's even cooler is that I see a scenario where there could be a mix between AI and human-curated workers

1) I get a very fast translation using a fast yet imprecise model

2) I do my highlighting based on it's results

3) 20 minutes later I get a human-corrected version of the transcription

4) I pay both because I care about the information I'm curating

The building block is so abstract that service providers can compete in all kinds of realms

O I get it! I love it

In this alpha version, is highlighter running whisper in the background and charging sats / word (or something)? Then farming out to humans for additional feedback for premium version?

Yeah, under this model highlighter will be sort of the market maker for this model while I explore what it looks like

But yeah, I’m just running whisper on a few servers and making it accessible through this nostr computing market im creating

Today whisper, tomorrow all models? 😉