On your first point, I suppose that has been your experience with anarcho-capitalists and that's what your idea of justice is. I disagree with both as my experience with ancaps have been different and my idea of justice is also different and is based on logic and reason.

On your second point, if you think there is no ideal government and also think that anarcho-capitalism is bullshit, what kind of social order do you wish to see? I'm curious to know what you think it ought to be.

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Nature is nature. It's inherently unfair, yet the "fairest" possible. I have no theory on what an ideal social order should be. It doesn't matter. What matters is how an individual learns to operate within it.

Got it. I'd say a social order does matter.

But I also strongly agree with you that it is vital that an individual learns to be responsible and operate within whatever social order exists at any given time. Change starts from the individual.

Thanks for taking your time to engage my man! Lovely discussion. 🫂