From: mikedilger at 11/03 10:17
> You said the following things that I find to be extreme:
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> All previous history is irrelevant.
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> Events must not be justified.
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> (Victims were) targeted for not just murder but torture of the most barbaric heinous and intensely personal kind (I think that is extreme with the facts)
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> All their suffering is entirely Hama's fault
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> I find all those views to be extreme.
Firstly, I appreciate you being worried about my "benefit". But don't worry. I'm a big boy.
It is perfectly valid to say that you believe some of my stated ideas to be extreme. I'll happily disagree; and we can debate those ideas.
It is not valid to say: "I hear only one side extremism from you." That is an ad hominem attack, and a false generalization that goes well beyond the ideas that I had stated.
Now, as to my assertion that the events of Oct 7th "must not be justified". What justification can there be for putting infants into ovens and roasting them alive? What justification can there be for descending on a dance concert with a squadron of ultra-light aircraft and spraying the dancers with automatic weapon fire? I could go on. You know the atrocities that were committed. I'm sure you've seen the videos taken by the perpetrators and heard the testimony of the survivors.
There can be no justification for such actions. No matter how oppressed, subjucated, and violated you have been; you cannot roast babies alive. And since such atrocities were not isolated, but were generally executed across the entire attack; and since the perpetrators filmed and posted their attacks to the cheers of many, and since they phoned home to brag about killing jews with their bare hands, it is clear that the atrocities were the point, and not just incidental.
In a moral society, we have to draw moral lines. Without those lines there is no morality. Such lines are not extreme; they are necessary to maintain the definition of morality. Therefore we must not attempt to justifiy actions that cross those lines. If we try, we will find ourselves erasing all moral lines and justifying the horrors of Auschwitz.
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