you cannot follow it through other payments.
therefore it isnt tracing.
his contention that simply knowing the first step, ie you send me a payment and therefore know where it goes,
that itself constitutes "tracing the payment"
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I probably need to research more what super testnet is claiming, but one thing that's for certain is that his claims about lightning network are correct. tracing lightning payments, even given the lightning invoice is not really possible, in any way (especially when using bolt12)
Nobody is disputing his claims about LN, it isnt the subject of discussion.
He is simply asserting *the sender knowing the destination of their payment* is called "tracing the payment"
Yes, it really is that retarded. My apologies.