I’m not sure there is a clear correlation, Einstein, Aristotle, Descartes, Shakespeare, Napoleon, Galileo, Jung, Socrates, Wagner, Tolstoy, Dostoevsky, Jobs, Picasso, Tolkien, Darwin, Planck, Bach, Marcus Aurelius all had children.

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Your pool is 10-20 times bigger. If people couldn’t find meaning or direction or happiness or freedom from the system without kids none of my list would exist (forgot Newton, Hume, Woolfe, Kant, Dickinson…)

Yeah but it isn’t correlative is my point. Also most geniuses who didn’t have children weren’t rejecting family so much as shaped by intense neurodivergence (autism etc…) or single minded focus. Their paths weren’t the result of some alternative lifestyle design, they were often anomalies compelled by outsized obsession and focus. Or they were just gay at a time when that wasn’t socially acceptable like Michelangelo for instance.

It is correlative. If my list is comparative to yours but my pool is 20 times smaller, there’s a correlation. Neurodivergence or anything else doesn’t change that fact.

Controlling for neurodivergence and homosexuality negates the correlation

Lol ok. Because in your world people who are neurodivergent or homosexuals don’t count? These are the values you’re instilling in young people?

lol I’m not going to respond to your hysterical bad faith interpretation of what I said buddy boy

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Because you have nothing left to say

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