#PopOS is quite productive too and it's open source. MacOS on the other hand it's closed source. It's like trusting a closed source wallet to store my Bitcoin. I would never do such thing.

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Only the macOS GUI is closed source, well, and the programs it includes.

The operating system as such is open source:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_(operating_system)

It needs trust, that the closed source part it doesn't contain any nasty stuff. I'm not a developer, I still need to trust in peoples who can verify the open source codes, but till today all my open source choices are working perfectly fine and never f@cked me over. This can't be said about the closed source ones.

I agree with you. In fact I always say that encryption with tpm make no sense, I have to trust a closed part and that is never good in cryptography. Never combine luks with tpm for example. With this I mean that I prefer a Linux machine with luks than a macos with FileVault + security chip. But that does not mean that macos has a good architecture and is a model to follow in many things. As I say I invite you all to try Fedora Silverblue, for me it is the model to follow for Linux. Secure Boot + SElinux + immutable system image + Flatpak

Thanks. Sounds interesting. I will try.

It all comes down to use cases.

Sounds like my next setup as I gave up on QubeOS. As much as I like the concept, I’m not getting it to work well enough on my notebook to be happy with it.

This is why there are macos alternatives popping up like airyxos and hellosystem (bsd based). Plus the apple store could make it easy to disallow programs government don't like. This page explains it much better then I can:

https://github.com/helloSystem/hello#why

I totally agree with your comment, but we must differentiate between privacy and security. Is macos good from a privacy point of view? No but it is better than for example windows. Is linux in general better from a privacy point of view than macOS? Yes, it is. Is Linux in general from a security point of view better than macOS? No.

Although the latter is not very nuanced, for example a vanilla fedora is much better than a vanilla arch linux from a security point of view. But a vanilla macOS is more secure than a fedora, that's my opinion of course.

And I am not defending Apple, as I say I am a user of multiple operating systems, I love Fedora Silverblue, I love Haiku, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, Debian, etc, but I can see that Macos has a great architecture.

This is a great comment - I too enjoy using different OSes. Was a huge fan of BeOS back in the day and actually owned a dual proc BeBox for a time. Was the fastest OS at the time. MacOS is my primary these days with Debian on many VMs and bare metal systems.

OSes are just one layer, most of your stack is closed source.

Perhaps. Which is why I diversify and only do certain things on certain machines.

This is the key, and let's not forget QubesOS.

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