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I didn’t say HODL identified all of them. I said his broader point about family being central to human flourishing aligns with those objective rules.

You’ve spent this entire thread arguing against that point while simultaneously admitting objective rules exist.

I didn't say you said that.

You said he identified an objective rule though and he did not.

He didn't even word it in a way that you would have.

That means you object to how he worded it, just as I do.

That's the main point here.

The whole time you've been arguing something that was never the debate.

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