so you think that east st. louis is okay how it is, and illinois has to do nothing about it?

some of you chicago residents need an obvious wake up call. why don’t you come down here and spend a night in east st. louis :) see how you feel after that 😂

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probably would be too scared to even drive around in the daytime 😂 but is okay to talk lots of shit about how it’s not illinois’ job to take care of it.

And we’ve devolved into the ad hominem portion of this discussion.

again, your words mean nothing chicago boy

Again, it is no worse than the south or west side of Chicago. Why don’t they “do something” about those places?

chicago is 1000x safer than east st. louis 😭

Go to the Austin, Bronzeville, Englewood, or Back of the Yards neighborhoods and let me know if you stand by that statement.

been there, my brother lived in englewood. still felt safer there. show me the stats

They are all dicey areas. I don’t know what stats you are looking for. The point is, neglect is not unique to one part of this state. Bureaucrats in charge of anything is never going to work out well, and there are countless examples of their failures.

Southern Illinois needs more investment. Full stop.

Exhibit A: Carbondale used to be a flourishing town, and it is now mostly a rundown factory town kept alive by a struggling university.

Government money is not “investment”. We offshored our manufacturing as a nation. Dumping more money down there won’t do anything. Take a look at our schools. You need productive endeavors that create capital. Government spending does not do that.

you talk a lot of shit while actively living in chicago. again, the investments you hate so much, are letting you sleep in a safe and government supported and loved city. you have nothing to talk about if you’ve never spent a few days down in east st. louis.

I never said it had to be directly from the government. But state governments can create incentives for businesses to move to certain areas just like, as you mentioned, manufacturers were incentivized to move to different countries.

Well, that was by another nation offering slave wages to produce stuff. Either way, there are all sorts of places like this all over Illinois. In general, allowing an actual free market to take place is really the only thing that can be done. Re-allocating resources or “incentivizing” comes at the expense of something else. We are arguing over how an entity should be centrally planning economies when we should be arguing about how to eliminate central planning altogether.

that’s exactly what i’ve been saying. check out cairo illinois.