What would Jesus do about the taxes?
He basically says fiat taxes are fair game.
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Oh yeah I saved this quote a while back for a spicy post but people are very sensitive about this subject. Jesus was a socialist and statist.
Marx surely wanted that to be true. This is obviously not the case. It's just Jewish trickery for the less gifted.
He makes a very interesting point about the ones using Caesar' money. Bitcoin, on the other hand... 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
It’s a weak argument in my opinion. Dollars have pictures of dead presidents on them but they don’t belong to them. In fact, during the lives of those presidents, there was no income tax or money printing. So those dollars truly belonged to the holders. And now that it’s all fiat, they belong to the central bankers which aren’t even part of the government.
The phrase "In God We Trust" first appeared on U.S. coins during the Civil War era and later became the national motto in 1956. It was officially mandated to appear on all American currency in 1955, and it first appeared on paper currency on October 1, 1957.
The earliest recorded usage of the phrase "In God We Trust" was in January 1748, when it was reported on the colors of Associators regiments. It was first inscribed on a U.S. coin, specifically the two-cent piece, in 1864. Theodore Roosevelt, at the suggestion of sculptor Augustus Saint-Gaudens, briefly removed the phrase from some coins in 1904, but it was reinstated in 1908.
All the dead presidents served the same master. By using the dollars you abide to that organization. There's been a great confusion about who God is in this context.
The slave master?
Man, I think you missed the point:
Three Powerful Lessons in these scriptures:
1. Ceasar's money is Ceasar's [yours is yours]
2. The Power of Manifestation
3. The Power of Asking Questions as a weapon of self-defense (used to deflect entrapment in this case)
Did Jesus not determine the money belonged to Cesar simply because his face is on the coin?
I’m not religious so I try to just take these things at face value. I like using Occam’s razor with things like this. Not because I don’t believe in nuance, but because religious texts claim to be intended for all of humanity. Therefore, i think it is rational to assume “God” would provide simple messages. The lowest common denominator should be able to arrive at the same conclusion. The conclusion of the article is not what most people would arrive at.
Would you say bitcoin' proposition is easy or hard to get for a nocoiner?
It’s definitely hard because people are retarded. But most people don’t need to get it.
But for you or anyone else already in it is natural, right?
After putting in hundreds of hours studying it, learning about Austrian economics, and challenging goldbugs, yes it is now.
Like many of us who were stubborn at first... 🤭
Now let's say your cousin Moe sees you're into bitcoin and he just starts believing in it without putting in the work, like really really believing in jt. Then he immediately pours into bitcoin everything he has.
You are a bitcoiner. Moe is a bitcoiner. Is Moe wrong?
Hmm I don’t think so because there isn’t conviction. Conviction requires a deep understanding. New information could easily push him out.
Well, I do. Moe looks at you like a god. He trust you blindly. He will never sell, only spend.
The same happens with Bible study. Both left and right sides of the bell curve arrive at a similar conclusion.
At best, top of the curve thinks the Bible is an engineered psyop by an Italian old family. Or just a collection of fairytales.
Bitcoiners don’t have gods or heroes. They shouldn’t blindly follow someone like Saylor or Odell. That’s the problem. People have this inclination to idol worship and blindly follow authority. I think real Bitcoiners have deeply internalized don’t trust verify.
What do you think is the point of having a Bible, or any religious text, if it’s too difficult for the common sheep to interpret? If you have go to a church and be told what it all means.
No, nothing like that. No heroes, just deeply connected to the protocol directly without putting in the study. Stranger things have happened.
All I'm saying is that it can be understood on different levels. When it comes to binary decisions, the idiot and the genius find themselves on the same side and they both benefit from the lucky coincidence. I'm joking tho, there's no luck involved here.
And yeah, it can be verified too. Jesus did not draft any priests in his dream team of 12. Not that there are no decent ones still doing the good work as we speak. As an institution of large proportions it has been captured by fiat money long ago.
Jesus's words were put into his mouth after his death by the statists. Ignore them.
It is simpler than it looks:
I am fine with "gov" protecting me.
It means, I am fine with them making a fence around me.
It means I am fine with them owning the land under the fence.
It means I am fine with them charging anybody, including myself, for crossing their land or bringing goods across.
It means I am fine with the foreign trade customs type of taxes.
But I govern my own land myself.
I don't want "gov" ever entering my land.
I don't want them protecting me from my friendly neighbours that are within their fence perimeter.
The unfriendly neighbours I either shoot myself, or get them to the other side of the fence. Or reposition the fence.
So I am not OK with any other type of taxes that are not customs on foreign trade.
"Whose is this image?"
It's simple. King is taxing you for using his money.
That is unfair and not simple. When I hold the money, it is no longer the king's money. If he had strings attached to it, and charged me for touching it with securing my payment before me touching it, that would be fair. But if strings are hidden or incomprehensible for simple people and first comes the touching and only then the taxes, then it is a scam. If the king limits my options to not use his money or tricks me into using it, it is also a scam.
Whereas this is simple: if I give you the land around me so you could protect me, the land is yours. If I don't give you the land, you don't have to protect me. If I don't fully give you the land or give it with strings attached, you don't have to take it and don't have to protect me.
Mat 17:24-27 KJV ¶And when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?
25. He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?
26. Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.
27. Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
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