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when "Nostr is a CSAM Relay Service" video?

CSAM on Bitcoin is everyone’s problem.

You would have to have that material in plaintext on your device as your node validates it.

With nostr this is not the case. Nostr doesn’t have a blockchain that you _must_ download, with plaintext blobs you _must_ process. You can avoid it.

Three additional points:

1. Bitcoin is a monetary network. It shouldn’t be polluted with multimedia at all.

2. Centralised and regulated platforms also have this material on them.

3. Nostr relays have the option to detect and deny illicit material, just like a regulated and centralised platform.

#bitcoin #spam #filter #knots #core

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Nym States 4mo ago

From what I've looked into it, running knots doesn't protect you from other's using the network for their own agenda (I'm not co-signing anyone else's agenda, as I only control what I can control). You can run knots, but know that the node software will still carry (cache) at least 100 non standard transactions in order to help with block reconstruction. I get the fact that no one wants to be associated with things they believe are abhorrent (I don't either), but it simply is not true that these things would be plain text and human readable/discernible without willingly running the bytes through a translator (decryption). *Also, this type of info is being XOR'd (obfuscated) through randomized XOR-key (making it more difficult to simply unscramble, kinda like the idea of a nonce [number once])

*This is assuming you are running Core 28 or newer with initial block download. If running a prior version, there is an XOR tool that does not require you to re-download the entire block history again.

The main goal should be to have honest users making transactions using bitcoin's network to drown out any perceived illicit materials making it's way into blocks (gate-kept by block size and fees), not appeal to authority based on subjective (albeit consensus) morality

I'd push back on point 1.

You want bitcoin to be a monetary network (and by your measure it very well might be). This won't be absolutely true until it is unanimously used as such by all humans on this planet. Until then, the absolute truth is that bitcoin is a messaging system (based on concise design of the code being run)

I agree with point 2. The only problem here is that what is considered 'illicit' or undesirable changes throughout history. This creates a constant power struggle over the narrative of what is subjectively undesirable to the largest cohort of humans

As to point 3., my original post was being facetious, being we are using that platform right now. I'm trying to draw the parallels between both networks. Nostr, at is foundation, is a messaging network (just as bitcoin is). The problem of content (or transaction) curation leads to the issue mentioned above about point 2.

I appreciate your response and respect it. These are ultimately my thoughts and it is not meant to be imposed on you. Please run Knots or whatever software you choose. Ultimately I find we can all be stronger together and will find the way through discourse. Cheers!