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nostr:npub1xtscya34g58tk0z605fvr788k263gsu6cy9x0mhnm87echrgufzsevkk5s, could I try and bring https://github.com/damus-io/damus/pull/172/ up to date (probably as a new pull request) so that Damus sends messages with PoW automatically? I know you said that you think Lightning is a better filter, but every single person sending notes on Nostr can calculate PoW since they obviously already have a computer whereas the same is not true for Lightning. If Damus leads the charge on this and if we can get nostr:npub1gcxzte5zlkncx26j68ez60fzkvtkm9e0vrwdcvsjakxf9mu9qewqlfnj5z on board we could make PoW default on notes which could almost completely solve the spam problem.

Spammers can pow much more efficiently than phones

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Yes, a phone is much less powerful than a spamming server but a phone is also sending magnitudes less notes than a spamming server.

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Bitcoin is PoW in a bottle.

Yes, over the long term I think that's the best solution but not everyone has a Lightning Wallet. If we make notes with Bitcoin the standard than new users will be discriminated against whereas the same is not true for PoW. PoW is more inclusive for new users.

Also spammers don’t need clients to spam? They can just do it via a script?

Correct. But if we can make PoW notes the standard and discriminate against non-PoW notes than spamming would become far more expensive because spammers would need to have PoW on their notes as well.

Phones can buy PoW, or client can subscribe to PoW provider to auto-mine client's events

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Still trying to work things out lol ⚡️- everyone uses that emoji so I thought I’d join! Happy Fathers Day