that's disturbing. which devices are this unholy?

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Block’s Bitkey and Coinkite’s Tapsigner are two examples.

ohhh. the Bitkey is so tempting though for 25$ especially for new folks.

It would be fine as an addition to a multisig quorum. For example, I wouldn’t use a Ledger or a Bitkey, personally, but a 2-of-2 of a Ledger and a Bitkey is probably good enough for mid-sized cold storage.

yeah, that's the problem, i don't think it's advanced enough to do that. It doesn't actually show the seed. I need to dig into it more...

If it produces an XPUB and a master key fingerprint (XFP), that’s a good start. But yeah, its firmware would also need to be capable of signing multisig transactions.

I’m almost curious enough to buy one. Almost.

well it was 25$ yesterday