yeah, unfortunately so far the cards i know of all have some serious downsides and quite high costs

from the perspective of adoption, almost everyone has phones, and some sort of lightning custodial wallet or semi-custodial LSP based client is easy enough to get... phoenix is pretty good, wallet of satoshi, but that isn't accessible to americans, they can use stuff like phoenix just fine, idk about xapo there but they have lightning built in now, you can receive and make payments with it as well

it's just gonna take time, i guess, and that's the thing, it really needs to be concentrated in small areas, like el salvador and there's that thing in boracay (philippines i think?) and here in madeira

i probably would join in more here if i could live somewhere quiet while not being so far away from where all the community is based in funchal

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honestly, check out www.btcmap.org/map - there are a lot of apparent hotspots in unexpected areas

of course, they might not be real but the guys who run the map are legit

eg, the isle of man in UK.. ...lugano in switzerland.. ..some islands i never heard of off belize!

if this is at all real, it's a grassroots uprising

yeah, most of them are legit but some not very serious... there is a pharmacy in the next town west of me but they haven't got their shit together... the guy i was working with on https://github.com/p9c/p9 - you can find him on the map in Novi Sad, no idea what he's actually up to, but he's a web dev mainly, he used to run Bitstickers

for sure it is an uprising, maybe i should look closer at the map because i have some regions in my mind that i'm interested in, if they are bitcoiner hotspots that might help me pick my next move... i have the idea of leaving here in may or so, and i need to plan my next stop, i want it to be the place that i build my hermitage, i mean citadel, whatever, depends on whether i catch myself a wife i guess

yeah, nah, it's really just not happening in former yugo, i think even that there is less now in Split than there was, i'm not gonna put too much weight in it at this point... partly why i paid the insane fees for xapo bank was to have the freedom to not care if they accept sats or not wherever i am, just need either ATM or EFTPOS that accept mastercard