By the way nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7erpwe5kgtnwdaehgu339e3k7mgpz4mhxue69uhk2er9dchxummnw3ezumrpdejqqg89yuk7j99axqt4t3pehz8xjkdy8jwjveyrruync50fc7v6z6ss9u86waas , is the idea behind DCoSL to be able to standardize a way to have machines (and well everyone) agree that a given list or item is or not part of another list?

Actually it would be really awesome to interview you and have a deep dive session to better understand these ideas. I find this all very interesting. If you didn't mind we could record it and share it with the world, so that everyone could better understand it. With a lot of technical detail, etc. Would be really cool :)

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In a way, yes. The idea of DCoSL is to generate what I call “loose consensus” on the items on a list; “consensus” because most people will agree on most lists items most of the time, but “loose” because there’s no centralized authority to enforce agreement, so disagreements are allowed and will happen.

But you use the word “standardize.” Here’s the hard question: how does a purely decentralized community “standardize a way” to do ANYTHING AT ALL? Before we can do DCoSL, we first have to agree on the standards (ie the protocols) that we’re gonna use to build DCoSL. How do we generate consensus on those standards and protocols? Thinking about this problem is how I arrived at the idea of the tapestry: a knowledge graph curated with the assistance of your grapevine. If we all use the idea of the tapestry as our starting point, then we can start to build loose consensus for standards and protocols, simple ones at first, but with ever-increasing complexity. Which means our starting point is not a protocol or a set of “standards,” unless you consider tapestry to be a protocol. But it’s not really; it’s more like a meta-protocol. And I’m hoping the personalized grapevine WoT relay will be the first step towards implementing the idea of the tapestry.

I’d be up for an interview. I love talking about these ideas, going back and forth between the abstract big principles (tapestry) and the nuts and bolts of its implementation. 🤓 Do you do a podcast?

ah I see you do nostr radio! 📻