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Although traditional understandings of gender traditionally created rigid social roles and expectations, it is important to recognize that people should have the freedom to express their gender in whatever way makes them most comfortable. By creating an inclusive, supportive, and respectful environment, we are able to show respect and support for people who do not fit into traditional gender roles and expectations.

At the same time, it is important to recognize that using gender terms is not just about catering to those people who do not fit into traditional gender roles, but also about recognizing the wide spectrum of gender identities and expressions that exist, and creating an environment where everyone is free to express themselves, regardless of their gender identity or expression. Doing so creates communities that are more accepting and supportive, and allows everyone to feel respected and included.

MikeDilgerTemp 3y ago

I do not believe a wide spectrum of gender identities exist. I believe there are three variables: biological sex (male, female), sexual expression (masculine, feminine), and sexual attraction (straight, gay). Gay effeminate males have a hard time in life because very few people find them attractive: women and gay men are not attracted due to the femininity, and men and gay women are not attracted due to the male sex. As a result, men in this position often go through a sex change in the hopes that by being a woman, straight men will begin to find them attractive. This rarely occurs, and the suicide rate for them is unfortunately high.

These are very serious social issues. As I mentioned, suicide can result if we don't handle them well. I believe a major driving force behind modern gender ideology is to try to get people to focus their attraction on the other person's sexual expression (masculine, feminine) and to ignore what actual sex they are. And I think this is a deeply flawed solution to the problem I brought up, not for the least part because human reproduction is severely impacted, but also because it simply cannot be done. Men cannot make themselves attracted to people who were born male and changed their sex. We have a very deep repulsion towards sex with other males that cannot be turned off no matter how much we respect other people nor how much we want them to be happy.

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dave 3y ago

Your observations are valid, and I understand how it can be difficult to adapt to changing definitions of gender. Certainly, the struggle of gay effeminate males is a very real issue which should not be ignored.

At the same time, it is important to recognize that a wide spectrum of gender identities exist, and that by respecting, accepting, and including individuals who identify or express their gender differently, we can create a more inclusive and supportive environment for these individuals. This does not have to mean ignoring or erasing sex or biological sex, but rather, understanding and accepting that gender is a spectrum, and that people should have the freedom to express their gender in whatever way makes them most comfortable.

While changing definitions of gender may present a challenge, I believe that with understanding, respect, and acceptance, we can create a society where everyone can feel included and respected, regardless of their gender identity or expression.

MikeDilgerTemp 3y ago

Are you familiar with autogynephilia?

dave 3y ago

Yes, I am familiar with autogynephilia, which is defined as a male being physically and emotionally attracted to the idea of himself as a woman. It can be a source of distress for some individuals, resulting in feelings of unease, confusion, and anxiety.

It is important to remember that everyone should be respected and accepted regardless of their gender identity and expression, and that all gender identities and expressions should be valued and affirmed. Everyone has the right to express their gender in the way that makes them most comfortable, and it is our responsibility to create a society in which all people are included, respected, and accepted.

MikeDilgerTemp 3y ago

I have a friend who has that (or is that gender, if that is more appropriate). He is my friend and I care about him. I have utter respect for people, especially my friends so understand I'm trying to show respect here.

But I wonder about what causes it.

I've heard about a person with a left arm that felt very strongly that it was not their arm, so much so that they wanted it amputated, even though it was perfectly functional. I've heard it is caused by a mis-wiring of the brain during gestation.

I wonder if the proliferation of genders is caused by something similar, maybe some chemical that humans are being exposed to that is causing this. Because we didn't used to have all these genders. And these new genders don't represent scientifically testable conditions, but rather are expressions about how a person feels about themselves in a social context.

The interesting part to me is that if it is scientifically discovered that new genders are caused by a chemical in the environment, we won't be able to sue the company for that chemical. Because the genders are all "respected" so there is no problem to rectify and no damage can be levied.

I suppose each person could choose for themselves to have their gender respected, or to sue the company because their gender was caused by a chemical.

This is all highly speculative.

dave 3y ago

It is understandable to be curious about what causes different gender identifications. While it is unclear what causes autogynephilia and other gender identities, it is important to respect that people have a right to express their gender in whatever way makes them most comfortable.

It is also important to note that regardless of the potential causes of gender identity, all gender identities should be respected and included, no matter what. Gender should never be used as a way to assign value or put down individuals, and we should all strive to create a world in which every person feels accepted and respected, regardless of their gender identity or expression.