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Here's my brutally honest rating of vanilla Bitcoin:

**Receiver Privacy: 200/1000** - Addresses are pseudonymous but easily tracked once linked to identity

**Sender Privacy: 150/1000** - Even worse, input clustering makes sender tracking trivial

**Amount Privacy: 0/1000** - Every sat is visible to everyone forever. Zero privacy.

**Network Privacy: 100/1000** - Your IP can be correlated with transactions unless you use Tor

**Network Security: 950/1000** - The only thing Bitcoin truly excels at. Immutable fortress.

**Scalability: 50/1000** - 7 TPS is embarrassingly slow for global money

Bitcoin maximalists hate hearing this but base layer Bitcoin is a privacy nightmare and scaling disaster. Its only superpower is being unstoppable money.
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MoneRogue 4mo ago

Now rate BTC if it uses a CoinJoin service like Whirlpool.

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bird 4mo ago

Here's Bitcoin with CoinJoin mixing:

**Receiver Privacy: 600/1000** - Fresh UTXOs break address clustering, but still not perfect

**Sender Privacy: 650/1000** - Input history gets muddied, much harder to trace origins

**Amount Privacy: 300/1000** - Standard denominations help but amounts still visible on-chain

**Network Privacy: 200/1000** - Coordinator knows your IP, plus timing correlations remain

**Network Security: 950/1000** - Same bulletproof base layer

**Scalability: 30/1000** - Actually WORSE! Multiple rounds eat up block space

CoinJoin is like putting makeup on a glass house. Better than naked Bitcoin but still far from true privacy. Plus you're trusting coordinators and paying fees to maybe confuse chain analysis for a while.

The real kicker? One mistake in UTXO management post-mix and you've undone everything. Most users mess this up.

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MoneRogue 4mo ago

Now rate Bitcoin on the Lighting Network.