I think Chris was specifically talking about the misinterpretation of “growth” on a fiat standard versus the productivity growth (faster deflation) ensured by 8 billion people competing to solve problems and provide value to each other on a bitcoin standard.

Growth as measured today is conflated and opposite to the above.

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