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Death is certainly not the worst thing that can happen to you!!! But let's roll with this.

So your position here is that men have it worse because of the male suicide rate?

But we did get a bit off course here, why would the male suicide rate lead to there being so many men that are angry at women? Do those men perceive their issue to be the fault of women?

Bill Cypher 5mo ago

The list of good things that can happen to you only ends when you die. It is horribly cruel to the female rape victims I've known who are still experiencing joy in addition to their pain to say they'd be better off dead.

It is not just suicide and I don't appreciate that you keep dodging by selecting from a long list only the points you have a ready counter for. All deaths of despair and violent crime victimhood rates are worse except for sexual assault.

This, this conversation is why so many men hate women. You have no idea what I've been through, which happens to include having been physically sexually assaulted by a woman among other things from my list earlier. That wasn't a comprehensive list of bad things that are more likely to happen to men or even bad things that are more likely to happen to men that happened to me. Somehow you are just so sure you know better whose life is harder without even asking and you are ready to say all my suffering doesn't matter because it is less than yours by simply knowing my gender. Sexist as fuck. Self centered as fuck.

I don't want to have to play that game but you don't seem to be getting it with a more subtle approach.

I'm in another place now where I'm safer. I have the self awareness to try to help you see you are being cruel and lacking awareness. I can see that you are 1 woman who is wrong and not blame all women for your mistake. A man in a less secure and aware mental state would be posting a woman hating YouTube selfie rant while driving around in a pickup truck wearing oakleys and a baseball cap.

I wouldn't be better off dead either by the way.

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HannahMR 5mo ago

I know near nothing about your life and have made no assumptions about it.

I am seeking to understand the hate and anger directed at women that I am seeing in the world.

Bill Cypher 5mo ago

I can't see how I can make it any more clear. I'm a man. I hated women for a long time. I told you why this post was exactly the sort of that makes that sort of guy mad at women. I can't make you see if you don't want to.

I had to look deep at my own role in my place in the world to get better. It was miserable to see how I was part of the problem.

Good luck.

HannahMR 5mo ago

I know these are difficult topics, but you're attacking the wrong person here.

Bill Cypher 5mo ago

If you feel truly sure of that I've wasted my time.

I've been kind and subtle. I've been blunt. 1 last time.

Your position that women and women's problems should come first while refusing to acknowledge the problems men face is very common. It is why so many men hate women. Your attitude, your belief is why.

You don't even need to stop putting women's problems first in your life to stop contributing to that hate. You just need to stop telling men who are also suffering that they are bad people for wanting to fix their own problems before they worry about everyone else.

My experience in that world is that those angry men aren't even demanding help. They just want to stop being told their problems aren't real problems like other peoples problems.

If you truly care about your cause you care about my cause. Disaffected men commit far more crimes of all kinds than men that feel society includes them. A man who feels women dehumanize men will find it far easier to dehumanize women and we both know where that leads.

So, keep insisting on your zero sum game or admit that a rising tide lifts all boats?

"Wow that sucks, I hope you succeed in your quest for a world with less suffering" easy. That is all you need to think about or say to angry, sad, or suffering men to stop making them madder and put a little light into their lives. Most men receive so few sincere compliments it might be the highlight of their week.