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PAGAN WOLF 2y ago

If in 2024 we see posts complaining about

Debt

War

Lending

Banks

Collapse

US debt clock

#Bitcoin fixes this

Collapse imminent

We have to ask what are we achieving? Absolutely nothing except triggering anger in everyone

Which adds to more problems

Your podcast, your book

Utterly useless

Imagine listening to all this crap again for another year… over and over again

We either solve the problem, use #bitcoin get the fiat price to a point where everyone who holds it is able to empower others

Or forget about it…

It’s one thing to pretend you’re some freedom fighter but do absolutely nothing except think you’re “awakening” people…. Like everyone doesn’t know what’s wrong

Any more complaining on top of since 2019 then this is all it’s probably gonna be

If not now

When

#bitcoin requires action, or all of this was for nothing

Hurry up! Move faster! Get on with it

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captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

yes - except nobody knows timeline and everyone speculating about it - trying to be on both sides - endgame may start 20 30 50 more years - meanwhile slow grinding back n forth

PAGAN WOLF 2y ago

We can agree that the 24 ability of #bitcoin achieving 10m $ could be done and achieved by midnight tomorrow yes?

As simple as removing the last coins and sending futures bid only….

Solutions over assumptions are needed or people will lose interest and give up

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

real bitcoin economy is real growth - that will YEARS YEARS - not dollar ticker on SATS

PAGAN WOLF 2y ago

Bitcoin is valued in USD?

1 BTC = 1 BTC means nothing until Bitcoin can’t be valued in USD

has to go out of 1 into another

Dollar ticker is THE most important aspect right now… basic miners can’t stay in business if number don’t go up

Most miners if not 90% go bankrupt in USA at halving if value not atleast 70k

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

"wrong" 1BTC=1BTC means a LOT when detached from dollar - actual good/service exchanged in SATS - leaving dollar casino on it own - that will not happen since dollar is measuring/accouting FORCE in 99.999% bitcoiners mind that how banker will continue control ur mind

PAGAN WOLF 2y ago

Means a lot?

How much does 0.00001 #bitcoin buy currently

What is the current good and service trade?

Have you built a value structure on #bitcoin ?

Does 1 bitcoin buy a car or a nation?

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

exactly u right - at moment is almost zero

95% ramping game ongoing for 15years

slowly real bitcoin like we do ZAPs is growing

it will take long long long time - when nobody will NEED any RAMPS hten you will know GOAL is near - until then Fiat will DICTATE the VALUE of bitcoin - everyone eye fixed on PRICE

PAGAN WOLF 2y ago

I’m legitimately interested

How we get to your 1 BTC and valuation in bitcoin ?

What is the path/events that need to play out to achieve valuation in bitcoin ….

TBH I’m sticking with my “infinity” call because 1 Bitcoin has to be value structured when it’s no longer able to be structured in the reserve currency, thus becomes reserve currency

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

u have think outside of fiat mindset first

or u cannot grasp it

infinite exist in fiat terms only

PAGAN WOLF 2y ago

Right…..

🏆

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

fiat is DEBT based economy

u borrow from me, me from someone, banks borrow from cb gov borrow from gov company borroow from market etc - u see BORROWED growth

then is RAMPS - BRIDGES to cross over between worlds -

bitcoin need own economy island like we r doing now - like dev getting sats people zapping pay for voip or streaming - buying physical food in salvador brasil lugano-swiss etc...

whether anyone RAMPING or not secondary - no-one can control that but can create awareness like this

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

think of like exmaple Walmart cash coupon or some casino chip - u can exchange on within premises - not outside

captjack 🏴‍☠️✨💜 2y ago

they lend FIAT to miners just have have theirfresh bitcoin BONDED to BANKS if fail to repay to repay loans - bankers control 7% #BITCOIN indirectly that will industrially mined