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Gold & silver worked perfectly fine when communities were smaller & we weren't trying to buy everything in from elsewhere.

And it is why places that fall apart revert to it or barter.

Perhaps but that was then and this is now.

Bitcoin is a better all around method.

Nothing about bitcoin is antithesis to the Amish religion. And in fact many of the ancillary lessons and lifestyle that bitcoin paves the way for align perfectly with Amish values.

Then go try to peddle it to them, maybe they will, I doubt it, but maybe.

Yes that's the entire point of this thread. We have been working on orange pilling the Amish community because we think it's highly beneficial to them and the bitcoin community.

The key is education and understanding that bitcoin will not introduce sin to their communities.

I see you are so hell bent on this that you are purposely avoiding the existence of silver, so have at it.

Dude ok silver copper bronze tin whatever. The type of metal doesn't matter. All physical coins are an inferior method of exchange vs bitcoin.

Sandor Clegane 11mo ago 💬 2

So next you plan to have them doing online shopping & international trade like the rest of us? 😂

Transportability doesn't factor into it if it is only local, diluting may but can be easily avoided.

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 11mo ago 💬 1

Transportation still matters locally. If one guy has gold in his house and wants to go down the street (locally) to trade with their buddy, they have to transport it.

I assure you, I have zero problem walking 5 miles to town with the quantities required.

Having a digital money does not mean you have to shop at Amazon.

Just because a feature exists does not mean you have to use it.

Bitcoin is digital but they can have Amish wallets that only access internet so far as to access a node. Without access to Amazon or any other online retailer they won't be using the bitcoin to shop online. They can transact locally and utilize the global bitcoin network without having to access the wider internet.

That's what they currently do with their cell phones now. The ones who have smart phones have some limited and restricted Amish only apps. They have access to certain things deemed safe but everything else is closed off. Application of bitcoin would be no different

You miss the point, the functionality that makes it useful to you & was a problem for you is not to them.

It is a problem to them though. Again I pose to you, if it wasn't a problem, why do they transact with USD over precious metals?

Sandor Clegane 11mo ago 💬 2

The answer to that is obvious, everyone outside is trading with it.

Bitcoin is currently and has been useless for trade where I am, nobody accepts it for anything remotely necessary...

Try getting general acceptance up first.

Cypherpunk has already pointed out this problem.

At this point it is only useful for what everyone else is using it for.

I can and have had people accept metal.

That's the idea here no? Increase the % of ppl worldwide using bitcoin? To get a normie to accept bitcoin they have to unlearn a lot of what they know about economics lifestyles (time preference) etc.

The whole point is that Amish are actually the "low hanging fruit". They already subscribe to most of the lifestyle choices bitcoin teaches and the only perceived hangup is "tech". But that simply comes from a misunderstanding of why Amish avoid tech in the first place

Then less talk, more action, go talk to them.

They aren't on here.

BITwise 🐳 >>= RIGHTish 11mo ago 💬 1

We've put a lot of words into action already 🫡

Appreciate the convo btw. It's good to hear opposing opinions to help build the case.

Sandor Clegane 11mo ago 💬 2

One more thing, do you mean Amish or Mennonites? I'm not certain where the line is between them but certainly the old order are less tolerant / more suspicious of tech.

Just how much deviation is there between them before they are the other?

I'm 90% sure it's the Mennonite that are more strict. I think its the Amish that allow for some tech and stuff. Not exactly sure what criteria for one to be the other.