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Replying to Avatar Jordan Eskovitz

Might we say that the externals you identify here flow from a masculine interior disposition? Benching, grilling, smoking can become characatures but it doesn't follow that therefore they aren't masculine. Benching increases T which increases masculinity. Grilling flows from the disposition of being a provider. Since grilling most often centers on meat, and meat, particularly red meat, increases T. So it seems to skew more masculine than, say, baking. As for pipe smoking, that seems to be a predominantly male activity, much like cigar smoking or drinking scotch. I dont know that I can make a strong argument at the moment as to *why* women generally are less interested in these particular recreations but I think it still underscores my point—which is not to get lost in the weeds and argue that *these activities actually do define masculinity!* but rather that there is a reason these are stereotypes. They naturally arise out of the masculine internal disposition.

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Laeserin 1y ago

Most professional bakers are actually men. It's physically grueling.

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Jordan Eskovitz 1y ago

A fair point, but I wonder what the overall percentages of male to female bakers are, not just professional. Anyway, perhaps not the best comparison on my part.

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