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Keep calm and HODL #Bitcoin.

Everyone seems to be overreacting to the Samourai arrests, the FBI PSA, and Phoenix leaving the US. Here's my attempt to break it down.

Samourai

You have to unpack all of the different elements. Could this be a state attack on self-custody and privacy? Maybe. Probably not.

There are a few components here that need to be evaluated on their own.

1⃣ Samourai was a self-custodial wallet

2⃣ Samourai was a mixer

3⃣ Samourai was providing normal people with privacy

4⃣ Samourai were knowingly marketing the service to criminals and flaunting that fact

Reading the charges, it seems like #4 is pretty cut and dry for this case. Their getting arrested for #4, doesn't automatically mean #1, #2, #3 are under siege as well. If Samourai was a taco stand laundering money and bragging about it, I'm sure they would be taken down too.

They may be accused of running a money transmitter now, but that may or may not stick. We'll find out in the trial.

All that said, we should always be vigilant to attempts to erode privacy and the ability to self-custody. It just does not seem that this fight is *that* fight.

FBI PSA

Seems pretty normal that the FBI would advise people to use compliant services, and the entire announcement seems to revolve around potential disruptions due to Samourai being taken down, and potentially others in the future. Given they took action, they have to post some bulletin about it.

Remember that when people lose funds or have funds stolen from them, they do go to the FBI for help. From their point of view, the best thing for people to do is use compliant services where they can potentially help.

The announcement concludes saying that services that purposely break the law will be investigated - so again we go back to #4 above. This is nothing new, and self-custody is not being criminalized.

Phoenix Leaving

As nostr:npub1sg6plzptd64u62a878hep2kev88swjh3tw00gjsfl8f237lmu63q0uf63m said, it's feels completely unnecessary. Phoenix obviously is not a MSB and they are not doing anything illegal. In my view, their exit from the US app stores is a complete overreaction.

Keep Calm

Could "they" come after wallets, developers, mixers, nodes, LSPs, sidechains, eCash, VPNs, encryption, etc? It's totally possible. But if you're not breaking the law, you have nothing to worry about.

To my knowledge, there is still rule of law in the US, property rights are still protected, and privacy is enshrined in the Bill of Rights (nostr:npub1trr5r2nrpsk6xkjk5a7p6pfcryyt6yzsflwjmz6r7uj7lfkjxxtq78hdpu).

It would be very difficult to change the law or stretch it to incriminate these things because it's all just information and software, which is speech. Some will try. But as they are trying, #Bitcoin is becoming more and more mainstream and integral to the world's financial system.

#Bitcoin is freedom technology and it will continue on.

Go outside this weekend and think about why you're here.

Could you, please elaborate. How were Samourai knowingly marketing the service to criminals and flaunting that fact?

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Well they literally SAID THEY WERE and stated on their twitter account that they had a focus on serving "the black and gray markets".

Well, this is the only way you can prove something is money!

It will be very unfortunate if many people here think similarly that bitcoin should only be used on officially approved markets.

Antagonizing tech community all over the world just because your anti-Russia sanctions do not work is an act of desperation. Fucking your own population just because you can not fuck Russian oligarchs is really retarded.

It's not about "fucking your own population", it's about common sense.

If you are already a target by the nature of your service, don't make it worse by telling people they can avoid sanctions with it.

Don't be surprised if the DOJ looks into you after you invite Russian oligarchs to avoid sanctions by using your service.

I'm sorry to disappoint you but people were told they can avoid government sanctions by using bitcoin back in 2009. If bitcoin is not capable of avoiding sanctions imposed by state actors then bitcoin is not useful at all. Samourai are just more principled and straightforward as a company than many others.

I remember the time many years ago when your colleagues argued that Bitcoin-QT GUI should not be translated into Farsi because of the sanctions on Iran imposed by the United States. Obviously, DOJ & Co have not learned the lessons of that time.

The elites of the United Sanction of America and their satellites are more and more isolated from the rest of the world. They can not recognize the grave mistakes they made. So, they end up fucking their own population.

Bitcoin is not a business. Their are no representative promoting it for criminal activities.

Samourai is a business. There are people running that business. Those people are identifiable. They promoted their services to avoid sanctions to Russian oligarchs. The US is engaged in a proxi war with Russia.

They knew their service was used for criminal activities, why make it worste by welcoming Russian oligarchs looking to circumvent senctiond.

To use your expression, they fucked themselves over.