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People being misled that US is going to put stars and stripes on Mars in this Trump term. Very maybe, we will see an uncrewed Starship land on Mars in the coming 4 years. Note that 7 Starship tankers are needed to fully load up a Mars bound Starship that can land a payload of about 35 ton on the surface. If a crew would be onboard they would be stuck. To bring them back either you have to build up a CH4 production & tank farm, or deliver a Mars Ascent Vehicle and a return starship filled up by Starship tankers from Earth. Both options require about 50 Starship launches from Earth.

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Iroquois Pliskin 11mo ago

Starship is great for launching big payloads from Earth but horrible to put either on the Lunar or the Martian surface. Reusability only works on Earth surface because it can be refuelled. On other bodies this is not the case and all the mass you bring down kicks you in the face when you want to get back up.

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