Do you support the death penalty ???

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Not by the government...

Very valid clarification

Depends on the crime. Not for everything πŸ˜„

Yes, of course, we are not going to kill anyone who crosses the street with a red light πŸ˜…

Perhaps jaywalkers should be caned πŸ˜…

I was just reminded this morning that you get the death penalty for bringing drugs into Singapore.

And caning for lesser offenses like littering. The country is very clean, and safe. I was told a parent could put their 6-year-old daughter in a taxi by herself and be assured that everything would be okay.

Violent crimes get the rope

Property crimes get the lash

All else gets a laugh

With state coercion I don’t support it, Not even working β€œwell” as in this case

It disproportionately targets minorities and it has been wrongly applied throughout history, so I can’t say I’m in support unless there is overwhelming evidence. Also, the methods that are used are very sketchy.

Depends. Revenge seems healthier.

At least in one case... so it's a yes ??? πŸ‘€

I'd not call finding shooting your child's molester a "death penalty."

I guess it's a no, too many individual variables.

I've been thinking about it actually..

Take for examples those convicted criminals with multiple life sentences. I don't get why would I, or anyone else, pay for their food and water?

I heard this a while ago and couldn't get it off my head since then (wish I could remember who said it to give them credit) - why do those criminals get a free meal, paid with taxpayer's money, but pupils in schools don't?

Maybe Nayib Bukele

To be fair I don't think kids in school should get a free meal either πŸ€·πŸ½β€β™€οΈ But criminals definitely shouldn't...

Everybody should get a free meal and nobody should be forced to pay for it

Let's pass a law that says manna from heaven must fall down and into our waiting mouths

All we have to do is stand outside like baby birds when mama bird comes back to the nest? πŸ€” I spose I could dig that. Yes let's pass that law, it makes as much sense as feeding criminals with the public purse... Or we could just not serv them any food that their family doesn't bring for them, only give them personal items their family bring them or they work to provide for themselves etc... No one gets a free meal, there's more incentives to not break laws for the imposition on your family and let's face it, manna from heaven was always pretty unlikely, law or not.

Slightly more seriously, I think incarceration as punishment is unwise. I would prefer to see the death penalty for serious (especially violent) crimes, and corporal punishment for minor (especially property) crimes.

I prefer a punishment that restores the victim to their status before the crime happened and hopefully prevents reoccurances. Steal a TV? Return it with like 10% compensation of it's value. This gets difficult at violence like stabbings or rape though. Sadly, I lean philosophically pacifist though so maybe banishment to a desert or something.. Perhaps that's just the Aussie in me πŸ€”

Risk vs reward.

Joe goes and steals a 50k worth car. If he gets caught he would be 5k down. If not, he's 50k up. Decent reward for the risk taken. Would Joe go for it?

10% was just an example. Return the car in fully working condition and pay $5K is it still worth it for Joe? For a joy ride? I doubt it?

Any human institution / process is going to make mistakes.

Any human institution / process is going to be misused for personal, political, or venal purposes.

Capital punishment is irreversible, which means in the first case a mistake cannot be repaired at all; and it destroys information, which makes misuse in the second case harder to investigate.

People wrongly executed for murder are rarely random citizens. They're more likely neighbours, associates, colleagues, witnesses or family members of the real killer. Who get to sip Martinis as a potential source of evidence against them is buried by the State.

Personally, I'm not in favour of incarceration either. Its not just a waste of resources, its also mental torture and empowers sadists on both sides of the bars.

If we made residency/citizenship alienable, separately at local, state and national levels, that could be "seized" from criminals by a court and used / sold to compensate victims, with the criminal being given a decent interval to leave town before becoming an illegal alien/outlaw.

Some people will soon find themselves unable to get residency anywhere that isn't a "sanctuary city". Both they and the city will deserve it.

I have doubts about ostracism for serious crimes but it may be applicable

No. I do not support the death penalty. This kind of punishment can't be undone and therefore shouldn't be applied.

There are alternatives, it depends on each person if it is well accepted