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It's the other way around: anti climate change pseudo scientists get payed by fossile fuel proponents to discredit good, solid climate change science.

Drought in e.g. Spain, sea water warming are undeniable and very, very disturbing.

In spain there is no drought, what there is is destruction of dams by the government to make water a business, I know this first hand, I live in spain.

Climate change is a farce.

can you recommend moving to spain?

That may be a factor as well but the whole Mediterranean is affected (Southern France, Italy, North Africa) so that's not the whole story. Climate change is real and disturbingly so.

The climate has always changed, only now they want to blame you for it to make you pay taxes 😂

Normally climate change is slow, but the current changes are driven by non-natural factors, which is extremely disturbing. The upcoming summer will likely already be a litmus test for Spain's future. Water basin levels in Catalonia are already at all time lows (15% or so). It's downright frightening!

Sea water warming is even more disturbing and may lead to the collapse of the Gulf Stream current as early as 2025, plunging Earth into climate chaos (a.o. Siberia in Europe). It's bad, really bad and likely we're all doomed by upcoming climate change.

We also would like to move to Spain but are afraid to because of heat waves and droughts.

I think you'll find you are talking to a cultist... You know how that will go. 🤣

The brick wall will be more receptive. 😂

Do you have objective scientific data for your 'brick wall' conclusion? Or is this just a 'gut feeling' that may get us all killed?

Self reflect on that and realize that's you who may be the 'cultist'. Climate scientists (real ones) are very worried, based on scientific observation (which is typically very different from pseudo science climate change denialism).

Go peddle your wares to some dimwits priest.

Ah, there ye go laddie. Out of arguments ye are?

You have already decided your position & I will not waste time, time is finite.

Go ahead and collapse.

I'll skip to the end.

It's funny that we have people here that found their way to Bitcoin and even Nostr. But still are caught in the mental control grid, created by global thieves (tax profiteers).

Climate change is a complex topic that is not very well understood even by scientists. But everybody thanks to politicians and media (agenda) has a strong opinion on it.

One thing so that makes a scam obvious is if one side only ever talks about the negative consequences that might be real or not, but not is capable or willing to debate the positive effects that are undoubtedly a reality as well, but would undermine the agenda if publicly debated.

Climate change "scientism" is driven by the equivalent of paper traders (modelists) just like the C-19 scaredemic was driven by false models rather than empirical evidence.

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And intentionally avoids anything that invalidates their hypothesis...

Any average human who's has money and / or reputation / politics invested in it is not going to recant now...

Complete waste of time arguing with them further, you'll just get the usual circular reasoning, appeals to authority & other fallacies ad infinitum.

You're clearly showing this behaviour yourself. Now what?

Conspiracy theories about 'mind control' alike powers that hide things from us and feed us false data don't have any factual basis and are as non-sensical as any other religion type reasoning.

If you want to talk about "conspiracy theories" you are not fit for a scientific debate. You already made up (closed) your mind with mainstream media fed talking points. The science is not settled. The 97% consensus a lie to create a narrative.

I am very confident about being x100 more informed/competent on the topic than you. So you trying to expose "conspiracy" theories is beyond comical.