lightning is a differnt network, a different technology

centralized, operated by corporations

do your own research

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None of what you said is incorrect. So you're saying we should censor channel opens because they're spam by your definition. I just want to make sure I have this clear.

By your definition, Bitcoin will never scale because any attempt at an L2 isn't "cash" and should be censored?

lightning shares only the fiat price with bitcoin

it has nothing else with bitcoin in common. a different architecture, a centralized network operated by corporations which only works if it becomes more and more centralized. they allow you to open nodes but because of the architecture all of the small nodes will have to run through the big nodes which are operated by corporations, the same criminals who are doing all hoaxes and fake diseases.

you even need to 'exchange' lightning into bitcoin paying high fees

Again... I don't disagree with you here. But it does scale Bitcoin... Just not in the way that we as Bitcoiners would like it to.

Seems like you're avoiding my questions though...

you are unable to debate because you are obviously in a cult.

name one fact i have posted which is wrong and prove why it is wrong.

you can't

Can you read? I'm highly critical of lightning... I've said I agreed with what you're saying. Then I asked you questions and you haven't clarified or answered any of them. Looks like the pot calling the kettle black to me... What are we even debating? You haven't made a claim I disagree other than censoring certain transactions, and I asked you if channel opens should be censored to clarify YOUR position. My position is clear. Don't censor any transactions.

I appreciate your calm.